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RayRapp  
#1 Posted : 05 April 2016 15:10:31(UTC)
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RayRapp

Due to the success of my last thread re PEEPs I have picked another easy subject.

Seriously, the issue of mobility scooters in flats (sheltered and general needs) is causing some concern. They tend to get stored in landings which could block a means of escape and of course they increase the fire loading. Charging them is another issue. We recently converted an area to store mobility scooters...but because tenants were not involved in the planning and some have difficulty accessing the the area we have created another problem.

Any comments more than welcome - thanks.
peterL  
#2 Posted : 05 April 2016 16:03:17(UTC)
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peterL

Hi RayRapp,

Lot's of issues here some of which you have already mentioned, but have you considered strengthening landing barriers to reduce the risk of the scooters being driven through these o upper levels, a recent accident I think at an NHS property highlighted this issue.

Is it not possible for these to be stored within individual flats, this may reduce some of the risks you highlight, but will adversely make others worse - presumably these are domestic premises being referred to.

Pete,
boblewis  
#3 Posted : 05 April 2016 20:27:22(UTC)
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boblewis

RayRapp wrote:
Due to the success of my last thread re PEEPs I have picked another easy subject.

Seriously, the issue of mobility scooters in flats (sheltered and general needs) is causing some concern. They tend to get stored in landings which could block a means of escape and of course they increase the fire loading. Charging them is another issue. We recently converted an area to store mobility scooters...but because tenants were not involved in the planning and some have difficulty accessing the the area we have created another problem.

Any comments more than welcome - thanks.


Just when we thought it was safe!!!!!!!

But maybe the answer is in the PEEPS!!!!! :-)

Or perhaps in the correct placement of persons in the appropriate accommodation!! :-)
RayRapp  
#4 Posted : 05 April 2016 20:47:45(UTC)
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RayRapp

Bob, have to report you for exclamation mark abuse!!!

It's difficult moving people from their current abode - remember, independent living. When they first come to sheltered housing they may not have mobility issues which happen over a period of time.

Peter, I will look at storing these in the flats but again I think there is a problem either with storage space or access.
Alfasev  
#5 Posted : 06 April 2016 08:44:31(UTC)
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Alfasev

Another issue is impact damage, particularly to lift doors protecting falls down the shafts and fire doors.

Without boring people with figures with some scooters weighing up to 160 kg + the person the design load of the floors can be exceeded, particularly if a number of scooters are stored/used together

chris42  
#6 Posted : 06 April 2016 09:20:30(UTC)
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chris42

There have been a few threads on this type of topic which I’m sure you have seen, but just in case.

Mobility Scooter charging: -

http://forum.iosh.co.uk/...spx?g=posts&t=104320

Lift issue
http://forum.iosh.co.uk/...spx?g=posts&t=120644

In social housing
http://forum.iosh.co.uk/...spx?g=posts&t=108545


Disappointing that something was built for this purpose and is not as usable as it should be. Sounds like it needs to be done again and people who actually use these aids consulted. Then some rules put in place.

Chris
boblewis  
#7 Posted : 06 April 2016 10:33:57(UTC)
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boblewis

Ray

Been there and got a T shirt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think there should always be a clear distinction between Powerchair users and mobility scooter users. In general the latter can walk to a limited extent whilst powerchair users cannot or are very very limited. The ideal answer is external storage with charging points but there are not many flying pigs to bring that about.

I still hold that Landlords are in fact putting persons at risk if these issues are not addressed at source.
RayRapp  
#8 Posted : 06 April 2016 12:44:33(UTC)
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RayRapp

Chris

Thanks for those links. I seemed to recall this topic had been raised before.
Lishka0  
#9 Posted : 06 April 2016 12:56:31(UTC)
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Lishka0

RayRapp could you let me have the link to your PEEPS discussion? I cant seem to find it?
RayRapp  
#10 Posted : 06 April 2016 13:20:39(UTC)
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RayRapp

Lishka0 wrote:
RayRapp could you let me have the link to your PEEPS discussion? I cant seem to find it?


There ya go - http://forum.iosh.co.uk/...spx?g=posts&t=121223
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