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matelot1965  
#1 Posted : 19 April 2016 22:37:24(UTC)
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matelot1965

Hi All, Just after some views please. I have been asked if I can conduct manual handling training in our workplace and I am wondering is there a necessity for me to undertake a bespoke manual handling trainers course. I know that the MHOR does not specify a need for trainers to undergo this course or any course for that matter. I currently hold the NEBOSH General Cert, the award in education and training (formerly PTLLS) and I have passed unit B of the NEBOSH dip which covers manual handling recently. I am confident that I could conduct the training required without having to undergo a specific training course. Are these manual handling trainer courses a money making scheme or is there a genuine requirement for trainers to undertake these courses? Thanks in advance
SNS  
#2 Posted : 19 April 2016 23:14:23(UTC)
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SNS

Its a matter of competence. With your current skills and knowledge, qualifications and experience do you reckon that you meet that need? Structure and content needs to be formalised and audit trailed for evidence - doesn't need to be huge, but will benefit by being in-house rather than the external 'move this box from here to here ...' The train the trainer courses often try to tie you to their system for registering those that you train so that they get paid for everyone you train. Lots of free info on-line, not teaching you to suck eggs but a quick google showed these: HSE guides and http://www.plymouth.gov.....swbb-manualhandling.pdf are good for info. Being internal make sure that you get enough quality time to deliver uninterrupted sessions - too often line managers will look in and say "can I just have xxx for a few minutes" My opinion, you have the toolkit and the skills etc. Make sure that you get the resource support for it - time, props - the back bending manikin is good and location . Enjoy! S
SNS  
#3 Posted : 19 April 2016 23:27:51(UTC)
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SNS

no connection with them but this is the kind of thing, a little costly but will last a long time http://shop.safetymedia....ing-aids/lifting-manikin
Invictus  
#4 Posted : 20 April 2016 08:24:02(UTC)
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Invictus

It's always good to have a DVD but there are cheaper on the market, you don't need to attend a train the trainer course as long as you feel competent to train the subject. I used to use a jam donut to show the effects of lifting incorrect, when you squash it the jam comes out showing the same effect as a slipped disc and if gives you something to eat.
WatsonD  
#5 Posted : 20 April 2016 11:26:18(UTC)
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WatsonD

HSE website also has a lot of good relevant videos on it which you could download and use in your presentations.
mark Jinks  
#6 Posted : 20 April 2016 12:01:08(UTC)
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mark Jinks

Hi as a manual handling trainer myself I feel if you have the confidence to deliver the course then you should be o.k. I personally went on the ROSPA training course and they went into depth on the physics behind manual handling eg, Newtons laws , using Fulcrums which to be honest was helpful in explaining the manual handling principles. Also you had to complete a lot of the work youself and to be honest it was quite intense. I'm sure you will however I would advise to make sure you cover the MHOregs , moral legal & financial aspects of getting Manual handling wrong ,and most important of all make sure they get enough practical demonstration. I also get them to do a small multiple choice assessment at the end to confirm learning. hope this helps
matelot1965  
#7 Posted : 21 April 2016 23:53:03(UTC)
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matelot1965

Hi All, Very many thanks for taking the time and effort to reply to my query it really is greatfully appreciated All good points there that I will take away with me especially with regard to standardising ,formalising and audit of the course by SNS so that it stands up to scrutiny Cheers Guys
andrewcl  
#8 Posted : 22 April 2016 09:51:37(UTC)
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andrewcl

I went on the ROSPA train the trainer MH course too and found it really helpful from a number of standpoints. Firstly, it gave me lots of good information about the different parts of the back, and how they can be damaged in different ways. Secondly, the techniques used in manual handling have moved on from when I was first trained to Biomechanics - I still hear about people being trained in the "Knees bent (fully), back straight, stiff upper lip" responsible for many a hurt knee and back. Thirdly, it gave me proof that I was qualified to train other people. I would recommend, even if you only go on a course once - The principles they train you in probably won't change much over the ten to twenty years.
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