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ACESAFE  
#1 Posted : 19 April 2016 20:21:28(UTC)
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ACESAFE

Hi would herras fencing round civil works, plastic barriers hoarding round excavations and scaffolding used to access double stacked cabins on site come under temporary works???
Alfasev  
#2 Posted : 20 April 2016 14:03:28(UTC)
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Alfasev

What is temporary works is defined in BS 5975. The short answer is yes however if they are proprietary systems their management is a lot easier.
Hally  
#3 Posted : 20 April 2016 14:18:09(UTC)
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Hally

I work in temporary fencing, our RAMS and the like for whatever is getting installed will normally form part of the temporary works for a Principal Contractor (not all ask however).
Ron Hunter  
#4 Posted : 20 April 2016 14:27:43(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

Heras fencing and plastic barriers as "temporary works" in stretching the definition way too far!

From BS 5975:

"3.40 temporary works

parts of the works that allow or enable construction of, protect, support or provide access to, the permanent works and which might or might not remain in place at the completion of the works
NOTE Examples of temporary works are structures, supports, back-propping, earthworks and accesses."
Alfasev  
#5 Posted : 20 April 2016 16:14:28(UTC)
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Alfasev

This may help:-

http://www.bhsea.org.uk/...chpresentationslides.pdf

As you can see from the above presentation the HSE have expanded the BS 5975 definition. It is in the management of those temporary works where the difference is. Whether to place heras fencing and plastic barriers on a temporary work register will depend on the risks and company policy but they have to be specified and erected correctly. If there is an accident the HSE will look at this aspect.

I have lost count the number of times there has been issues with heras fencing and plastic barriers, luckily with an accident.
gramsay  
#6 Posted : 20 April 2016 16:59:43(UTC)
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gramsay

We follow the same approach as Alfasev. Site fencing will go in the register as (almost always) temporary works of category zero.

This adds minimal admin but has the advantage of making sure the fencing is properly planned and checked, as well as getting people used to using the TWR as fencing is the one thing every job will have.
Ron Hunter  
#7 Posted : 20 April 2016 17:10:45(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

I don't disagree with your sentiments, Alfaserv - but I'll stick to my guns. HERAS fencing can blow or fall over if you don't build it properly, put nets or big signs on it, etc. ; but I still don't think it constitutes "temporary works" within the spirit of the BS Code of Practice.
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