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I think this type of thing has existed on some sites for a while. Indeed, slinger/signallers often wear orange hi-vis vest as opposed to green. The problem is on the railways where this type of colour coding would conflict with what is already in place, where clients dictate the PPE requirements. The colour green is a no, because it could be interpreted as a green signal from a distance. Hence only orange hi-vis is permitted.
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RayRapp is right about a pre-existing heirarchy in hard hat colours - this scheme is different.
Could we see history repeat itself again?
http://www.express.co.uk...rd-hats-are-wrong-colour
Pretty soon we are going to need a mobile locker room with all the permutations of PPE (footwear, Hi-Vis colours, gloves and now hard hats) specified by different client sites
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RayRapp is right about a pre-existing heirarchy in hard hat colours - this scheme is different.
Could we see history repeat itself again?
http://www.express.co.uk...rd-hats-are-wrong-colour
Pretty soon we are going to need a mobile locker room with all the permutations of PPE (footwear, Hi-Vis colours, gloves and now hard hats) specified by different client sites
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Network Rail already has hat colour requirements and has had for some years. Roughly, white is someone PTS qualified, blue if not (and it's even a specific blue). NR/L2/OHS/021 from 2009 says:
"The safety helmet shall be white in colour, except where the wearer is accessing Network Rail infrastructure under:
a Track Visitors Permit (TVP);
a Personal Track Safety (PTS) card with a ‘green square’ symbol on it;
or
Network Rail Standard Maintenance Procedure NR/PRC/MTC/SE0089, New Starters Mentoring
(Passport Scheme).
Where any of these conditions apply, the safety helmet shall be blue in colour (PANTONE 2935c)."
We've had people turned away from sites for the wrong shade of blue (even though the standard actually says " A shade similar to PANTONE 2935c blue may also be used if the safety helmet manufacture selected cannot provide this exact shade. "
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But - how does the colour of one's hat make for a safer site? (as claimed in the article)
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I thought it was wearing a hat that made the site safer.
Interesting that the colour code does not make the first aider easier to identify?
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KDP wrote:But - how does the colour of one's hat make for a safer site? (as claimed in the article)
Good point. The only real advantage I can see is identifying personnel who SHOULD be on site at any given time - for example, a supervisor (black hat) slingler/signaller assisting the movemnt of vehicles or cranes. It does not make the site safer IMO.
Emperor's new clothes strikes again!
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This beggars belief. A look at the contractor members on the Build UK website suggests the industry is more concerned with imitating LEGOLAND that addressing safety on site.
This is up there beside the ccscheme looking for CSCS cards for visitors.
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quote=achrn]We've had people turned away from sites for the wrong shade of blue (even though the standard actually says " A shade similar to PANTONE 2935c blue may also be used if the safety helmet manufacture selected cannot provide this exact shade. "
Ditto on that many years ago.
The idea that a blue hat identifies an unqualified / inexperienced person, so those that are need to look out for them is not a bad safety Idea.
Problem we had was that some of the main contractors used blue to denote supervision the exact opposite of NR.
Chris
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The forum archive didn't go back far enough for me to find the previous thread where I was looking form a tartan helmet so I could comply with all the various 'site rules' for different clients and principal contractors!!!
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I have just realised where I have seen this initiative before - Dr Who. It emantes from another galaxy where Daleks were coulour coded with the boss man having a black top and body with silver (or was it gold) nodules...whereas the surfs were just plain gold all over with other grades shades of red, silver and blue.
Did not make them any safer either!!
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RayRapp wrote:I have just realised where I have seen this initiative before - Dr Who. It emantes from another galaxy where Daleks were coulour coded with the boss man having a black top and body with silver (or was it gold) nodules...whereas the surfs were just plain gold all over with other grades shades of red, silver and blue.
Did not make them any safer either!!
That is so funny!!
I can see it from an identification point of view- but safer??? Nah.
Andy
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Site compliance be blowed - I used to specify a different colour each time a new batch of helmets was procured because previously there had been no stock control over helmet age.
In that way I was able to make it simple for worker - if your hat is not issued by the organisation and +++ in colour it is not compliant so get a new one. It centralised the decision making and thinking processes.
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Fiddling whilst Rome burns
Would one of these "big contractors" be the same firm that doesn't bother shuttering trenches?
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Build UK have also launched their new Training Standard (viz CSCS cards); see separate post.
So - maybe the colour of a workers CSCS card ought to correspond with the colour of their hat? And then everyone on site will be colour co-ordinated.
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KDP wrote:But - how does the colour of one's hat make for a safer site? (as claimed in the article)
Maybe if the safety manager wears a bright red hat with flashing lights and sounders then the whole site will be very safety by the time he gets there:-)
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RayRapp wrote:I have just realised where I have seen this initiative before - Dr Who. It emantes from another galaxy where Daleks were coulour coded with the boss man having a black top and body with silver (or was it gold) nodules...whereas the surfs were just plain gold all over with other grades shades of red, silver and blue.
Did not make them any safer either!!
Like it
Perhaps the gold Daleks with silver nodules, was the Dalek attempt at high vis.
Of course they had forgotten about their major design flaw - no not stairs, but the blanket, mandatory, non negotiable site requirement for gloves and glasses.
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who said H&S safety folk don't have a sense of humour - laughing at some of the comments and it's not even Friday...
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The way that this thread has developed has led my to ask myself the really big question. Who has the better HS culture cybermen or daleks?
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A Kurdziel wrote:The way that this thread has developed has led my to ask myself the really big question. Who has the better HS culture cybermen or daleks?
Deffo cybermen, they manage to get past the first letter of ERIC PD...
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A Kurdziel wrote:The way that this thread has developed has led my to ask myself the really big question. Who has the better HS culture cybermen or daleks?
I'd say the fatality rate with both of them is ridiculous. However, the cybermen just assimilate replacements. Not sure about the deleks though they seem to be no more than a little turd/ squid thing driving a machine. Not sure where you would source them from
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I wish I still had by Gold card, I could get a gold hard hat. My current Professionally Qualified Person card is tope, I don't want a tope coloured hat
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Nice to see a well considered all inclusive policy (NOT!) will turbans have to be colour coordinated as well?
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Nice to see a well considered all inclusive policy (NOT!) will turbans have to be colour coordinated as well?
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quote=Roundtuit]Nice to see a well considered all inclusive policy (NOT!) will turbans have to be colour coordinated as well?
That's a good point: you never see a Cyberman nor Dalek in a turban do you?
another example of the white middle class prejudices at the BBC
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