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Clark34486  
#1 Posted : 14 June 2016 11:43:24(UTC)
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Clark34486

I've recently undertaken the NEBOSH Fire Cert.

I found it to be somewhat low-level, I've a good number of years under my belt as far as H&S experience is concerned (construction, extractive minerals, M&E and FM).
My concern and thoughts are that to come off the back of the NEBOSH Fire cert. into FRA would be extremely difficult, thoughts?
Invictus  
#2 Posted : 14 June 2016 11:47:03(UTC)
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Invictus

On the basis that you felt it was low level would indicate that your level of knowledge was high regarding fire and as you do not need a qulification to carry out a FRA just competence maybe you pass at that level.
Clark34486  
#3 Posted : 14 June 2016 11:52:34(UTC)
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Clark34486

Invictus wrote:
On the basis that you felt it was low level would indicate that your level of knowledge was high regarding fire and as you do not need a qulification to carry out a FRA just competence maybe you pass at that level.


Now this is where the discussion really ramps up. three ex fire fighters attended my course, all, to a man, had stated that to continue offering FRA their employers required NEBOSH FC as a minimum.

I enjoyed the course tbf, I agree though that in my current employment 35000 rooms nationally (student accommodation, estate transfer, FM and construction) FRA and fire management is a daily function and therefore I am exposed to the topic
stonecold  
#4 Posted : 14 June 2016 11:53:27(UTC)
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stonecold

I have done it and thought it was pretty good, I have the dip and still found it pretty hard in places.

In terms of knowledge its more than enough to give you a good basis for carrying out FRA at low risk and even maybe medium locations.

If this isnt enough to make sure your competent I think many businesses would struggle to get FRAs done in house. Most firms dont employee absolute experts in fire safety and they really should have too.
ColinT  
#5 Posted : 14 June 2016 12:59:42(UTC)
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ColinT

I would have a look at the courses run by Vulcan fire safety, I have completed their fire manager cert and advanced diploma, both focus entirely on fire risk assessments and have an emphasis on practical activities. Having also done NEBOSH fire, I thought these were much better for carrying out fire risk assessments.
stonecold  
#6 Posted : 14 June 2016 13:19:23(UTC)
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stonecold

stonecold wrote:
I have done it and thought it was pretty good, I have the dip and still found it pretty hard in places.

If this isnt enough to make sure your competent I think many businesses would struggle to get FRAs done in house. Most firms dont employee absolute experts in fire safety and they really should have too.


I meant to say shouldNT have too..
Invictus  
#7 Posted : 14 June 2016 13:54:07(UTC)
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Invictus

Clark34486 wrote:
Invictus wrote:
On the basis that you felt it was low level would indicate that your level of knowledge was high regarding fire and as you do not need a qulification to carry out a FRA just competence maybe you pass at that level.


Now this is where the discussion really ramps up. three ex fire fighters attended my course, all, to a man, had stated that to continue offering FRA their employers required NEBOSH FC as a minimum.

I enjoyed the course tbf, I agree though that in my current employment 35000 rooms nationally (student accommodation, estate transfer, FM and construction) FRA and fire management is a daily function and therefore I am exposed to the topic



That could just be thier own requirement, just like asking for CMIOSH or dipIOSH etc. I have completed a number of courses in fire safety and found NEBOSH to be good, not difficult but I enjoyed it.
I won't disagree that having training in a subject is good but it is not a requirement at present. I worked with a number of ex fire fighters and whilst thier knowledge of fighting a fire was good they struggled to grasp the concept of R/A not because of illegence but they came at it from a different angle.
EoinMurphy  
#8 Posted : 14 June 2016 17:51:01(UTC)
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EoinMurphy

So is it merely 'industry best practice' to ask for NEBOSH fire cert, rather than compulsory for the FRA to have any legitimacy? I guess once again you may be competent without the NEBOSH fire cert, but having the cert proves that you are competent, should anything go wrong/ your FRA come under scrutiny from the likes of the HSE?
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