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I have been asked to write a short presentation for some of our managers to deliberately use a shock and scare tactic on failure to follow safety procedures and generally breaching safety on site.
Putting aside if using this type of training works or not (we are using other types) but we deliberately want to make them feel very uncomfortable about their attitude and actions towards safety.
Does anyone have or can point me towards material that I could use with the items I already have.
Thanks,
Richard
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I have seen a few over the years and Bradford city fire video upset me terribly. There is also a video from Coca Cola that I've seen regarding chemical protocols where a chap induced a chemical reaction that meant it got acid (i think) in his eye and it blinded him, this is a good video as it showed them altering the procedures to prevent it happening again. I saw both videos on the IOSH Managing Safely course so they may be available through that route.
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Show a few pictures of the inside of a prison and emphasise what would happen if they were prosecuted as an individual. Loss of job, loss of income, criminal record, possible imprisonment.
Ask them how they would tell a family a member of their work force was killed by their lack of following safety procedures.
At a previous employer we got in a company that uses actors for various scenarios. It helped change attitudes.
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It may help people give suggestions if you say what type of area this is in and any specific issues you know are not managed well.
On my Diploma course we were shown a video of a manager telling us the storey of how a FLT accident happened and the effects on him. I don't know the name of it but the manager was Scottish, and he tells us the effects on him and his life over and above those issues noted by MEden380. It was shown by EEF, if you have any contacts.
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Richard Pickles wrote:to deliberately use a shock and scare tactic on failure to follow safety procedures and generally breaching safety on site.
Are you looking for assistance to help you deliberately emotionally / mentally harm your staff?
How about also injuring a few physically as well to show them what might happen?
I think it's reasonable to talk about consequences, and for that I favour the SGB 'Cost of Accidents' video, but deliberately scaring people has no more place in H&S training than deliberately injuring them, in my opinion.
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Back in the day John Cleese was responsible for some - his type of safety.
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Back in the day John Cleese was responsible for some - his type of safety video.
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The film that MadiB is referring to is called "Think What If, Not If Only" and is about a gentleman named Ken Woodward.
It includes interviews with Ken himself, as well as his wife, one of his workmates who was involved in the incident and one of the managers at the plant.
"The cost of accidents" is also a good film, maybe a little more subtle
There is another example which you may be able to look up details of: - Andrew Stocker asked two workers to go into a nitrogen filled store to collect apples. When they died of asphyxiation, he went to jail for it. It may illustrate where the responsibility lies for encouraging unsafe work practices.
HTH
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Sometimes a good video or testimony from someone involved in a life changing accident can have far more effect than slide after slide of legalese. Whilst I was at the IOSH conference, I came across a screening of a DVD made by Ian Whittingham, who was disabled by a fall through a roof. Funny at some points, heart breaking at others. He sadly died seven years ago, but I think you can get the DVD from the BOHS.
Sometimes you have to be careful. As a parent governor at my daughters' school many years ago, I was asked to give a talk to the students about to go out on work experience. Rather than droning through slides, I looked for something they could relate to, and found a video called 'No Going Back' about a singer in a band suffering a disabling fall down stairs. All was going ok until the moment of the fall, when I could hear an audible gasp from the children, and concluded that I had traumatised them for life. I never got asked to do another one!
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The following worked well, from an external trainer: you are the managers of this hypothetical business and your task is to investigate a fatal accident.
It transpires in the investigation that all the same things are wrong and caused the fatality that happen to be wrong in the real business. The managers are led to realise this.
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Hi Richard,
Some people here are getting a bit hot-under-the-collar, by the terms 'shock' and 'scare'. I think there is definitely a place for more hard-hitting stuff.
You are looking for something akin to the recent drink-driving campaigns which really drive home the reality of the dangers.
However, I'm sure a quick search of Youtube should yield results
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There is a DVD called 'The cost of accidents, putting safety first' this is very good because it goes all the way through telling the storey and the ending in court.
There is also one about young people killed at work where the parents tell the storey but I can't remeber the name.
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Just remembered there is another film called "In the real world" which I believe centres on a court case after an accident - but I don't know much more than this.
It may also be an idea to present a case study around the Alton Towers incident, although it may lack a little punch as (I don't think) they have been sentenced/fined yet. You could ask the managers to estimate the fine? One of the initial press releases suggested the operator was at fault, but as we know, the company (not the operator) were prosecuted.
For the full on experience, Ken Woodward used to do presentations about his accident and I also believe Jason Anker (has his own website...) also does presentations after he had a fall from height. Why not get them in to tell it like it really is...?
HTH
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andrewcl wrote:Just remembered there is another film called "In the real world" which I believe centres on a court case after an accident - but I don't know much more than this.
'In the real world' was produced by the same team as 'cost of accidents', I think. It focuses more on management (cost of accidents is targeted at operatives). In my personal opinion, 'in the real world' is not as good as 'cost of accidents', and I use 'cost of accidents' for management and office-based staff - although it is a story about an operative up a scaffold, people in management ought to have the extrapolation / abstraction skills to see that the key point (if you don't do it right you're basically just gambling on chance) is applicable to any scenario, not just bloke-up-a-scaffold. That does depend on having an audience that are sufficiently engaged to look past the superficial scenario, though - if they start off with a 'I don't climb scaffolding, this doesn't apply to me' mindset it's probably not as useful.
While it's not as good, it's still a significantly better than average safety video, it's cheaper than most, and it is targeted at managers (at various levels) rather than people actually getting their hands dirty so it's useful to have - I certainly don't regret buying it and having it in the library of resources.
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i see no harm and i believe using not so much shock and scare tactics but simply the truth. sometimes the truth is grim, people do die sadly, they do sustain life changing injuries and accidents do ruin lives. telling true and direct stories is what people need to hear and not hypothetical what if's
I ran a workshop on my last project, essentially a guy at the early stages of the project had a serious accident and as a result was unable to work for 9 months, he came in and told his story. money issues, family time etc this had a real impact on the staff as this wasn't some manager with a tool box talk but someone they could relate to directly.
again with management, show recent examples of fines, imprisonments etc. not scare tactics just real life.
just my thoughts
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I have purchased some films from Latitude Productions before http://www.lattitudeproductions.co.uk/ They sell the Ken Woodward films and I have also seen another film called "it will never happen to me" which is about a wife of a man who died at work and she tells her side of what happened. This certainly hits home as it touches the emotional side of if a colleague were to get injured at work how you would feel telling their loved ones or attending their funeral.
Also you can preview the films on their website so you can get a feel of if they would suit your needs.
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I was subjected to shock and scare films for years in the military. Not sure of value. Similarly Bradford fire etc - shocking, yes, but what's the lesson?
Although the film 'No Going Back' was in it's day, 1991 I think, so well produced it could have been a TV story, with Cherie Lunghi and other well-know actors (then), I was still uncertain as to it's learning value, as it featured a good, caring company to whom a classic swiss cheese failure event caused a heartbreaking injury. No really bad behaviour. Bad luck.
It depends entirely on the audience and the learning objective.
HSE Chris idea is the one which will engage workers.
Managers need to see the implications on them - not the same as those who could be hurt.
I agree that some shock & scare can be justified for this group. Nothing like the police turning up as the ambulance leaves, and declaring a 'crime scene' to make management really wake up. Talk them through that kind of scenario, waiting to be interviewed by police / HSE, being asked to attend interview under caution, arrest, DNA, fingerprints, photos, scary stuff all right. Who goes to see the family . . . etc.
Many still think the consequence of an accident at work is all about insurance and civil claims. Really!
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I presented on the change in the Sentencing Guidelines this morning to my local FSB group.
That was a shock to some of them.
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Ideally you want to find something that directly relates to your industry if possible as this will give the guy something that they can directly relate to themselves.
If not try this video which I think is pretty hard hitting
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every type of training has a place as long as its the right place
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