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ezzeldin  
#1 Posted : 03 August 2016 15:19:42(UTC)
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ezzeldin

Dear Fellows, Any idea about how many days lost to be calculated in case of fatalities? I have done some research and found some companies calculate it as 6000 days other 365 days, but any international reference exist? Regards. Mohamed
peter gotch  
#2 Posted : 04 August 2016 13:33:09(UTC)
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peter gotch

Mohamed. I don't think there's any international agreement on this. Some organisations count as 0 days lost. All sorts of ways that organisations massage their stats.
Kate  
#3 Posted : 04 August 2016 13:48:47(UTC)
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Kate

It's completely up to your internal company procedure or the procedure of any benchmarking scheme you are taking part in, 365 days is my experience.
Invictus  
#4 Posted : 04 August 2016 14:05:48(UTC)
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Invictus

1 because when they are dead it is difficult for them to resume work.
Roundtuit  
#5 Posted : 04 August 2016 14:10:34(UTC)
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Roundtuit

365 days strikes as quite a long period to assign - if the position is subsequently being filled would recruitment really take so long? Being realistic a fatality (work related or otherwise) is a worker who will no longer be returning to contracted employment ergo the business has not lost days of service.
Roundtuit  
#6 Posted : 04 August 2016 14:10:34(UTC)
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Roundtuit

365 days strikes as quite a long period to assign - if the position is subsequently being filled would recruitment really take so long? Being realistic a fatality (work related or otherwise) is a worker who will no longer be returning to contracted employment ergo the business has not lost days of service.
elburt  
#7 Posted : 04 August 2016 14:49:23(UTC)
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elburt

Hi Mohamed this question has been asked on the forum before from someone in the middle east if you search - Fatality & Severity Rate calculation you should get the thread thanks El
RayRapp  
#8 Posted : 04 August 2016 20:54:15(UTC)
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RayRapp

Why would you want to record fatalities in lost days I wonder? Unless you have dozens of them, in which case I would keep very quiet about it.
Clark34486  
#9 Posted : 04 August 2016 21:17:34(UTC)
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Clark34486

a death is a death is a death.....no? I have to admit that in 18 years of practicing H&S I have never thought to consider 'lost days to death', if I was working for an employer who HAD to record such things I'd find a different employer.......in fact scrub that......I'd find a different profession
stuie  
#10 Posted : 04 August 2016 21:42:19(UTC)
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stuie

Number of days left in career until normal retirement age? Maybe not as that might encourage employers to get rid of us 'old uns' first to keep the stats looking good :-)
David Bannister  
#11 Posted : 04 August 2016 22:54:09(UTC)
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David Bannister

stuie wrote:
Number of days left in career until normal retirement age? Maybe not as that might encourage employers to get rid of us 'old uns' first to keep the stats looking good :-)
Surely not. Kill an oldie is fewer days lost than killing a young 'un so better to retain the oldies and not employ anyone under 50. Works for me!
stuie  
#12 Posted : 05 August 2016 09:48:11(UTC)
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stuie

I did mean - use us oldies as 'cannon fodder' - anyone got any legionella containing asbestos at a height they want removing at night with the lights out?
Shane Lishman  
#13 Posted : 15 August 2016 13:13:29(UTC)
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Shane Lishman

If I remember correctly the 6000 days was originally in the ILO guideline, the guideline attached has references pasted below http://www.ilo.org/wcmsp...strument/wcms_087528.pdf Reference period and periodicity 17. For a given reference period, the statistics should relate to the number of cases of occupational injury occurring during the period and the total time lost as a result of those cases of injury. Cases of fatal injury should be included in the statistics for the reference period during which the occupational accident occurred. 18. The statistics should be compiled at least once a year for a reference period of not more than a year. Where seasonal trends may be considered to be important, the statistics may be compiled more frequently, using shorter reference periods, such as a month or a quarter. Regards Shane
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