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Is it reasonable to request a copy of the construction phase plan (or relevent parts). I find it useful when preparing RA/MS for work. In this case we are working as a sub-contractor, we are working solo (not around other trades) and in a social-housing environment i.e. in occupied properties. PC says they don't give it out! How else would site-wide risks be communicated prior to work starting (i.e. inductions).
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I think it is reasonable to ask for this. In fact with some contractors it is given without the need to request it. Interesting that they won't give it out - after-all, why not?
My advice to you is simply to contact them and ask if there are any site specific rules/ requirements you need to be mad aware of when preparing your RAMS for them.
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Withholding information would be contrary to Regulation 13 Duty, 13(3) in particular.
That failure in-turn impedes the (sub)contractors ability to comply with the requirements of Regulation 15. (Regulation 15(3) in particular).
It isn't about what is reasonable - it's a legal requirement.
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The purpose of PC drawing up a CPP is to share it with other contractors in order they fully understand the scope of the project and how their work fits in with project. It is a live document which should reflect the progress of the project as well as identifying any health and safety concerns.
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The Construction Phase Plan (CPP) is communicated by the Principle Contractor to the Contractor (CDM 2015)
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Under the Regulations there are 5 legal duty holders Principal Contractor and Contractor are Duty Holders.
The CPP should be in place and presented to the Principle Designer to demonstrate that the construction phase will be executed in a safe manner, this should be articulated back to the client.
The CPP is a live document and must be periodically reviewed as the construction phase progresses, the CPP should also highlight the requirements around certain construction type documents i.e. RAMS, PTW etc.
Each appointed contractor i.e. appointed by the PC should read and sign to indicate that they can and will work in accordance with the CPP (signing is my preference from a Quality Management & Audit point of view).
So the answer to your question, yes it is acceptable for you to ask for a copy of the CPP and this should be made available to all appointed contractors working on behalf of the Principal Contractor. Equally this should have been issued as part of the mobilisation to site, tender process, contractor kick off meeting etc therefore your company may already have it, worth a check.
In summary this is a legal requirement under CDM, if the PC does not or refuses to present a copy of the CPP then they are in breach of their legal obligations.
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The client has a duty to ensure a CPP is in place and frequently employ the PD to review it for them but there is no strict duty for the PD to be presented with the CPP. It is good practice and the PD may want to look at it to ensure some of the pre-construction and design risks are tackled but there is nothing spelt out in the regs.
Most CPP are specific to how the PC operates as well as the project and can be closely integrated with their health and safety policies and procedures. Therefore making a contractor reed it all and promise to adhere fully to it can be very problematic, bureaucratic and meaningless. It may work for some projects, especially when small contractors are involved but efforts are better focused on vetting, meetings, supervising, coordinating, liaising etc. with them.
There is no legal duty to issue the CPP to contractors but it is reasonable to request a copy of the CPP and there is a duty to issue all relevant information, instructions etc. It is also reasonable for the PC to ask why and what they need to know to satisfy the contractor. Simply handing over the CPP does not meet their duties under reg 13.
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or they haven't written one...
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