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Hello, I'm new to this industry and am looking after the H&S (once qualified/experienced) and the compliance for a plant hire company.
I am booked for my IOSH at the end of the month but currently am trying to get the company up to date on COSHH Risk Assessments.
Is there any training available specifically for understanding and completing risk assessments?
Reviewing an existing one I am confident doing, but I have some to complete from scratch for new substances being used and need guidance/training on where to begin...
Thanks in advance
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There are courses available, I know for example that British Safety Council run a Level 2 course in COSHH risk assessment. I'd also ask your employer to give you a bit more than managing safely. You really need to start thinking about accredited qualifications, mostly people start with a Level 3 course (NEBOSH general certificate is the most common) and then work on from there,
John
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mlacey,
I second everything that jwk has said above. NEBOSH cert should be obtained if your employer wants to show that their organisation has access to a competent H&S person. You will find the NEBOSH very rewarding and will make your job much easier.
For COSHH it's important not to rely only on what an MSDS say. Many chemical suppliers produce very generic and ambiguous MSDS documents which may say wear all sorts of PPE when in fact how you use the chemical may not pose significant risk, or if you have bulk quantities splashing about then the risks might be very high! So yes, COSHH training will help you to interpret MSDS and to understand chemical hazards.
John
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Thank you both for your replies.
I will also be obtaining NEBOSH cert, my employer has put me on IOSH first and then once completed will book me to do NEBOSH also, perhaps they have spent money unnecessarily if I could have gone straight to NEBOSH. I believe the thinking behind it was that I was starting at the most basic level due to this being new to me, I am unsure.
I have emailed the British Safety Council to get some clarification on the course content online and at the training centre, thank you.
JohnW - thankyou for the comment regarding MSDS. This is what I have infront of me now and finding it a daunting task to pick out the relevant information when there is 8 pages worth. Obviously I want to get it right from the offset.
Thanks again.
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mlacey83 wrote:Thank you both for your replies.
I will also be obtaining NEBOSH cert, my employer has put me on IOSH first and then once completed will book me to do NEBOSH also, perhaps they have spent money unnecessarily if I could have gone straight to NEBOSH. I believe the thinking behind it was that I was starting at the most basic level due to this being new to me, I am unsure.
I have emailed the British Safety Council to get some clarification on the course content online and at the training centre, thank you.
JohnW - thankyou for the comment regarding MSDS. This is what I have infront of me now and finding it a daunting task to pick out the relevant information when there is 8 pages worth. Obviously I want to get it right from the offset.
Thanks again. I think that's the most sensible route (did so myself) decent grounding from IOSH MS and the NGC is a superb point from there forwards. NGC isn't easy either from a starting point
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Similarly I did the same, but i must admit with COSHH assessments I was thrown a little bit in the deep end and ended up making my own way- now i really enjoy them. If there is an opportunity to go on a course then I would recommend taking it because if you are looking at them at the minute you will be able to see how the training fits into the task practically, and hopefully you will find that with IOSH and NEBOSH NGC.
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Your data sheets are only 8 pages! I have just seen one at 39 pages. I recently attended a RoSPA course on COSHH. I thought it was good, but only a day, which would still leave most struggling. Another client paid a consultant to update COSHH assessments last year, only to end up with a set of standardised data sheets - as is so often the case. The HSE inspector (FFI) was scathing of this, and said that training in how to do COSHH 'properly' was poor for safety folk. One for IOSH maybe? Get training, as said, but also take a good look at the HSE examples: http://www.hse.gov.uk/coshh/riskassess/index.htmPlant hire is not going to be a major COSHH problem. The HSE 'engineer' example is probably closest to adopt and adapt for your industry. Focus on the jobs that are being done, by whom (groups) and the general exposures, rather than the products and data sheets, to provide context; the HSE examples do this to some degree. Then (and only then) categorise, and examine data sheets. By-products (dust, welding fume etc) do not arrive with data sheets, so often get missed - context is everything. In terms of passing information on to hirers - keep it simple and integrated with the standard instructions you already give out.
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Thanks everyone for your help and advice, I will take it all on board.
I have my IOSH next week which im hoping will help and then will be discussing further training.
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I'm struggling to think of real significance from substances in plant hire.
If there are maintenance workshops too, yes, to a degree (see HSE guidance on engineering and vehicle maintenance), but just checking and topping up fluids? Maybe running engines for a few minutes for customer demos? (Usually outside in my experience). I am not dismissing these as 'non-hazardous' but the actual risk? Could probably come up with a list of 'controls' in less time than reading & writing this post.
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Hi sadlass, yes we have a workshop and our own fitters so all machines are maintained and repaired here, including machines being re-sprayed.
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You will get a lot from http://www.hse.gov.uk/pUbns/priced/hsg129.pdf on engineering workshops. This contains many of the 'solutions' (ie control measures) for tasks such as welding, paint spraying etc. where COSHH applies, but also all other H&S situations. PS - print out a copy for the workshop manager. Use it as an audit tool too. The contents list on its own is a useful starter for risk assessment.
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