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MoreTeaVicar  
#1 Posted : 20 August 2016 12:20:14(UTC)
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MoreTeaVicar

Hi all,

In addition to looking at registering for CMIOSH IPD in the new year, I am looking at trying to develop my CV to get my up towards the £50k bracket at some point over the next few years.

Now, I know some people like to complain about people who have an eye on the money side of things, and frankly, I'm not interested in that kind of feedback. Cost of living is going up, am looking to get on the property ladder (not getting any younger!) and obviously need to offset such things (not to mention expensive safety memberships!)

I am thus in a bit of a quandary in respect to CV/personal development vs reward. As such, I have been looking at adding to the NEBOSH General, Construction and Fire Certs and NVQ Level 5 I currently have, but struggling for what might be worth the time investment. Any feedback on what you feel might be the most 'sound' options for some progression would be appreciated.

- ISO9001 Lead Auditor Course
- IEMA Associate Certificate.
- P405/402.
- IFE Level 2-4 Certificates in Fire Engineering.
- BIFM Level 4 or 5 Diploma in Facilities Management.
- MSc in Health, Safety & Environmental Management.
- Civil Engineering qualification (say, level 3/4).

I would obviously like to be able to do all of these, but my budget would be stretched to do so, and I am looking to finish 'formal' studies before I am 40 (7 years), so am looking to see what the experiences of other members suggest might be worth looking at over the next few years.

With so many employers seemingly looking for the finished product at rock bottom I have to say I do think that qualification, if not the be-all-and-end-all of competence, it has to be there for any given 'route'.

Ta
Steve
gerrysharpe  
#2 Posted : 20 August 2016 13:49:54(UTC)
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gerrysharpe

That would depend on what kind of health and Safety you want to specialise in. Its not just about having as many qualifications as you can get. You need to decide what area of Health and safety you want to go in and work on those kind of qualifications as opposed to a big bunch of qualifications with little or no work experience.

All that does is wastes your time and money.

Do you want to go into Food Manufacturing? Perhaps a CIEH Qualification would Help. How about Construction Health & Safety, Nebosh Construction Certificate, Industrial Accident Investigators Certificate?. To be honest there is so many different avenues you could go down, it would be better for you to Specialise in a certain area and gain qualifications for that as opposed to a bakers dozen set of qualifications that you don't or will not have any need for.

To earn the money you need to be specialised in your chosen field, There seems to be an influx of people gaining a mass of qualifications and having little or no experience in the subject.

My advice is decide on what you want to specialise in and work with that. Having too many qualifications just waters down your experience and recruiters and employers know this
Clark34486  
#3 Posted : 20 August 2016 18:25:40(UTC)
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Clark34486

Complete nonsense

The 'current state of the economy' dictates salary, that aligned to your CV NOT quals

Basically you are living in fantasy land

OR

Move closer (don't know where you are) to London/ SE and take short term contracts until your CV fits the 50k you 'need'
stonecold  
#4 Posted : 21 August 2016 07:58:11(UTC)
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stonecold

If your after 50k a year Id try a different proffession.

I work for a large global company and the mid level IT bods earn much more than the the high end safety guy.....
gerrysharpe  
#5 Posted : 21 August 2016 10:20:15(UTC)
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gerrysharpe

stonecold wrote:
If your after 50k a year Id try a different proffession.

I work for a large global company and the mid level IT bods earn much more than the the high end safety guy.....


That depends on what you do, if you work PAYE for a company who does not respect H&S you will earn peanuts, if you work for yourself, Limited or Sole trader and specialise in Construction H&S you can earn £250 or £300+ a day, so on £250 you'll be on £65,000 Plus expenses

jwk  
#6 Posted : 22 August 2016 13:09:36(UTC)
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jwk

Hi MTV,

There are £50K jobs in H&S, but unless you're in a very high hazard industry they aren't usually much to do with safety. The higher paid roles are senior management roles, and what's important in them includes experience or aptitude for managing other professionals, an active interest in governance, high level-risk management skills, an ability to negotiate business sensitive decisions and the ability to work the politics of large organisations. Having a good knowledge of H&S matters of course, otherwise you won't have any credibility with the people you're managing, but being able and willing to work strategically is what's really important,

John
Clark34486  
#7 Posted : 22 August 2016 13:22:40(UTC)
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Clark34486

jwk wrote:
Hi MTV,

There are £50K jobs in H&S, but unless you're in a very high hazard industry they aren't usually much to do with safety. The higher paid roles are senior management roles, and what's important in them includes experience or aptitude for managing other professionals, an active interest in governance, high level-risk management skills, an ability to negotiate business sensitive decisions and the ability to work the politics of large organisations. Having a good knowledge of H&S matters of course, otherwise you won't have any credibility with the people you're managing, but being able and willing to work strategically is what's really important,

John

Politics

Exactly right
Mr.Flibble2.0  
#8 Posted : 22 August 2016 14:59:30(UTC)
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Mr.Flibble2.0

Look at the 50k jobs on Recruitment websites and see what experience and qualifications they are looking for that should point you in the right direction.
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