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Just conducting annual review of First Aid Procedure. Under First Aiders duties, is the statement • To complete at least 35 hours of voluntary first aid cover per year.
I cannot find anything reference in the regulations, HSE site etc. to backup this statement. Anyone got any idea if this is a legal requirement, guideline or one of those statements whose origin gets lost in time but carried forward from review to review.
Many Thanks
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I'm not aware of any requirement stating that an employee must complete any amount of voluntary first aid cover. I would expect that this is agreed between employer and employee, based upon the size, nature of the business and number of employees.
Does the statement really mean that the employee should be available to provide cover for 35 hours? So in effect, be on hand for one week of the year?
I would expect that the requirement you have has been there as agreed during consultation and never changed. I'll be interested to see what others have found.
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Had a similar question posed to our organisation during an external audit. "How do you assess your first aiders are competent?". The First At Work qualification is every 3 years, but there is no legal requirement for annual refreshers etc. Although there are refresher training courses available.
It was suggested that a "table top" exercise for first aiders would be a possible solution and the use of a helpful 'phone app from the British Red Cross.
Overall there is no legal requirement to maintain annual refreshers, but more to assess your first aid requirements and then implement what you assess particular to your needs.
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We carry out and exercise once per year which is hwre we try and tie in any updates and changes + the 3 year refreshers for all first aiders...not put a time requirement on all sites but one has the requirement for 'on call' of min 3 hours per week...(1 week per year)..as they also pay them..
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".........................Under First Aiders duties, is the statement-- To complete at least 35 hours of voluntary first aid cover per year"
To me that implies that the completion of voluntary first aid cover by the first aider is additional to the "normal" cover for the employer. It may be because of the nature of the undertaking or simply undertaking a good deed. ???
It needs to be understood in its proper context why the provision of "voluntary first aid cover", limited to a mere 35 hours per year is included in the duties of the first aider.
The refresher training etc are separate issues, IMHO
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Never heard of anything like it. Have you tried asking your most long-standing first aiders?
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Extract from HSE website below.
In the spirit of the scheme you are advised to refresh annually, but as a first aid training provider, we are never taken up on this.
Refresher training HSE strongly recommends that first-aiders undertake annual refresher training, over half a day, during any three-year certification period. Although not mandatory, this will help qualified first-aiders maintain their basic skills and keep up to date with any changes to first-aid procedures.
Phil
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Like all things practice makes perfect. If the first aider undertakes a training course and then does not actual offer any first aid over the three year period then they are likely to be rusty. If on the other hand they are called to assist someone every week then they will probably retain more knowledge over the three years. I will admit I have never considered this before but does anyone actually monitor how often their first aiders are called upon as individuals rather than just a group?
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A study was done in the wind industry to assess how much students retain in their safe work at height and rescue mandatory qualification, in between the 2 yearly requalification period. Results were that after 3 months there is a marked reduction in skill retention and ability. I would imagine first aid would be the same. From anecdotal experience of training fire services for their trauma course, a similar trend is shown in skill fade around the 3 month mark. But until the refresher is made mandatory in FAW, and not just advisory by the HSE, then Companies will send their staff on a course every 3 years, and expect them to perform life saving interventions, despite offering them no CPD, or refresher training.
Phil
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Jacqui, There is no legal requirement for this. However were your first aiders originally part of one of the voluntary aid societies, e.g. Red Cross, St John. Many companies had such units comprising of their employees and supported by the company. It was a requirement of those societies that members carry out a certain number of hours of voluntary service each year in order to meet their service requirements. It may thus have been in some document now lost in time. Take care John C
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The O.P identifies as being a member of sports grounds and events... So the first aiders could be volunteers getting 'free entry' to matches, festivals, galas and whatever. The organisers will have to do some admin for any volunteers to check qualifications etc, which costs time and money. It would make sense to ask volunteers for a minimum annual commitment of five days or so to justify the admin time and effort? Makes sense to me....
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Thank you to everyone for your comments. They are useful. I think this statement may have been a transfer over from a company procedure where they may have had volunteer section of St Johns ad the sister company has reproduced it without really reviewing its contents.
With there being no legal requirement, it could easily leave open the gap of first aiders losing their skills by not being called upon.
I will be changing this statement :-) to ensure the gap is reduced. Thanks everyone for your advice again
Sorry about late reply - bad ICT week.
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