Van driver out delivering has road rage incident and a youth on moped smashed the drivers side window, resulting cut to drivers eye. Will result on over 7 days absence , do you think Riddor reportable? Thanks Bill

I was going to say that but it wouldn't let me post ......

Sorry I can't see any ambiguity there. If the incident was on a road it's an RTA and not reportable If in a private area ie not on a public highway it is an act of non-consensual violence against someone at work --- reportable. This incident would not be reportable because it is an RTA on a highway

Surely based on your logic the security guard example would also be reportable because he was at work and suffered non-consensual violence. However, the Q&A makes it quite clear if it was 'on a road', it is not reportable'.

In the HSE example he was hit by the car not the person. If it was on a highway it would be an RTA. The police would have jurisdiction.

It was a collision, the youth on the moped collided with the van, breaking the mirror. The result was a cut eye, caused by an RTA---- not reportable

OK, I'm going to be a pedant here. RIDDOR says nothing about RTAs, it may seem that way, but it doesn't. What it says is this: 'Where the injury or death of a person arises out of or in connection with the movement of a vehicle on a road' it is not reportable. The OP's question clearly relates to an injury 'aris(ing) out of or in connection with the movement of a vehicle on a road' Not reportable, John

Reportable or not. Will the HSE or LA care about it anyway?

I read it the same as Mr Fibble, the OP said road rage. I would not have thought you would ram a vehicle with a moped in road rage. The only part of a Motorbike high enough to smash a window is the handle bar, that would be quite a manoeuvre or a full on collision surly, not just road rage. So the injury seems nothing to do with the vehicles, but of course if the OP cares they would get back to us on that point. Who knows anymore what the HSE is interested in. Chris

Once had an employee spat at by someone in a car pulling up alongside her (she was driving on company business). Was this there for an RTA as it happened on the public highway in a road vehicle?

Let’s replace RIDDOR with a new set of regulations, which say :if you have an incident which with hindsight it is obvious should have been reported to the HSE, you should report that incident. If this report is of an incident that the HSE is not interested in you should be charged for wasting HSE time and resources. That would clear everything up… Happy Friday

Well this goes back and forth in the forum, good question as everyone has a different take on the matter. “Van driver out delivering has road rage incident and a youth on moped smashed the drivers side window, resulting cut to drivers eye. Will result on over 7 days absence , do you think Riddor reportable?” Just by the question it is evident that a few things stand out • Road rage incident a driver should be reporting immediately to the police • Did he continue to deliver / work? What was his actions following the incident? • What was his part in the incident, as road rage occurs on a majority of occasions out of frustration of another’s actions? • If the injuries sustained eye or surrounding fleshy area Usually, an RTA is dealt with at the time of the incident or thereafter, if the other vehicle details are available With regards, whether the injury is reportable under RIDDOR, then it could come under violence at workplace. As his van is his workplace, on the other hand it could me a moving vehicle. As you can see, by the responses on this thread, there is no right or wrong at the moment, as everyone is assuming, so best way forward is to get the facts and then decide, take the necessary action to prevent re-occurrence and if you still throwing the question about and unhappy with the answers Then contact HSE and discuss it with an inspector, who will be in the position of “Yes or No” on some occasions they may say report it just to be sure you cover all ambiguities Unfortunately, the individual that caused the injury through his actions by smashing the window (By Road Rage Aggression), was somewhat infuriated by the driver’s actions. Let’s establish the facts / underlying causes that caused the incident. Agree with Chris42 - it is not clear cut

when it comes to RIDDORZ just ask pete48.