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Tinkerbel7  
#1 Posted : 09 February 2016 11:02:25(UTC)
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Tinkerbel7

Does anyone have any good guidance for the safe loading of van roof racks? I can find loads on how to secure the load safely with regards to ensuring the load does not create a hazard during a crash scenario, but very little about how to get the load up onto the roof rack safely (i.e. working at height risks). Obviously I understand the hierarchy of controls when working at height, but does anyone have any safe practical methods they adopt? Any help would be gratefully appreciated.
johnmurray  
#2 Posted : 09 February 2016 12:58:23(UTC)
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johnmurray

Ron Hunter  
#3 Posted : 09 February 2016 13:12:04(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

What are you trying to load and secure? There are several gizmos and gadgets on the market to make life easier for ladder storage. (EZ load, Loadsrite etc.)
Tinkerbel7  
#4 Posted : 09 February 2016 13:41:54(UTC)
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Tinkerbel7

It is for a Window/roofline/conservatory installation company. I caught them loading roofline profiles on the top of their van by standing on the top. I need guidance on practical ways of loading up their roof racking with these profiles that vary from job to job. Thanks JohnMurray but that document just advises on ways to load your vehicle so that the goods don't create an accident hazard, not how to safely load the goods onto the vehicle.
wombleflow  
#5 Posted : 10 March 2016 12:14:54(UTC)
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wombleflow

Hi Tinkerbel 7, I have had the same issue recently with securing ladders. I suggested that the operative should put them to the side instead of the middle and, as there was 2 of them, access using an additional footed ladder to secure instead of climbing up onto the wet slippery roof. It worked in this instance but as the operative said there will not always be 2 people. Did you come up with any other ideas that I could try? Regards Stuart
Tinkerbel7  
#6 Posted : 14 March 2016 09:11:02(UTC)
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Tinkerbel7

After discussions with the installation teams and management, we ended up making a compartment inside the van for the roofline profiles, and then storing the ladders on the top of the van using some of the sliding rack systems from www.van-racks.co.uk (there are other companies too). Once the pilot vans are kitted out, I will need to spot audit the fitting teams to ensure they are actually using the piloted equipment, and that it cures the problem...!! We shall see!
A Brown  
#7 Posted : 06 May 2016 13:04:37(UTC)
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A Brown

I hope this won't be seen as advertising (as it's not yet commercially available, but in the development stage) but given the recent cases against Anglian Windows and Travis Perkins, Can I suggest all of the guidance you may need will be found on the 'Links' and 'law' pages of www.veps.co.uk website. As an EX HSE construction inspector, and product designer by training, I recognised that LCV loading practices were not receiving the same attention as the heavy haulage industry fall from vehicles, and the vehicle edge protection system has been developed as a result. Again, I trust this will be treated as a response to an enquiry by a fellow IOSH member, rather than a sales pitch (as it has in the past)
sadlass  
#8 Posted : 06 May 2016 16:42:09(UTC)
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sadlass

Looked at this site with interest. I hope this gets into the market as it would solve the problem (a big one!) of roof work from van tops. Ladder transfer still looks a bit work-in-progress, but better than just ladder alone. However, the Travis Perkins case is not directly relevant to problem your product is designed for: this was a member of public (customer) loading their own vehicle roof rack, not actually on the roof, who overbalanced into the path of another vehicle.
chris42  
#9 Posted : 06 May 2016 17:14:17(UTC)
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chris42

I does look good, but the access ladder needs to be longer or perhaps part of the design. You had to grasp the swinging gate to get up as the top step of the access ladder seemed to be level with the top of the van roof. But a good idea Perhaps IOSH could have an innovation part, not advertising but new product design recognition. Chris
A Brown  
#10 Posted : 06 May 2016 18:09:09(UTC)
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A Brown

Hi, Thnks for the comments. I should clarify, the intention would be to have a fixed ladder on the rear door, with the vertical standard providing the 3rd point of contact, but the hire company were funny about me drilling holes in their van.... Hence the step ladder Also, whilst the Travis Perkins case was not a fall from the full height, it illustrates the danger of such ad-hoc loading practices. Even without the WPT injuries, there was still risk of spinal / head injuries from such a fall. A tragic case. Al
A Brown  
#11 Posted : 30 July 2016 12:12:40(UTC)
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A Brown

Just a quick update on the project for those who contacted me. Following lot of further design development work I am hopeful that I will shortly be producing a run of 'production' prototypes for field trials. All being well this will be before the end of the year, moving it closer to becoming a reasonably practicable solution. Once these are ready I my be looking for organisations who would be interested to participate in field trials, so if any members are interested, do please let me know. Al
A Brown  
#12 Posted : 30 July 2016 12:20:46(UTC)
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A Brown

Just a quick update on the project for those who contacted me. Following lot of further design development work I am hopeful that I will shortly be producing a run of 'production' prototypes for field trials. All being well this will be before the end of the year, moving it closer to becoming a reasonably practicable solution. Once these are ready I my be looking for organisations who would be interested to participate in field trials, so if any members are interested, do please let me know. Al
A Brown  
#13 Posted : 01 September 2016 22:01:29(UTC)
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A Brown

For those interested in this subject area, there is relevant article in the new issue of Commercial Vehicle Dealer (p.26-27) http://www.cvdealer.co.u...ines/issue175/index.html
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