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AL58  
#1 Posted : 05 September 2016 16:49:26(UTC)
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AL58

Looking for some advice we some times have soft top containers in which we obviously us a cage on a forklift to take off the tarpaulin top which we will now be kitting out the user with a harness etc . The problem comes once we have the top open we then need to go on top of the goods inside the container to hook the crane onto the lifting straps fitted to the goods inside . The problem then is where to hook the lanyard as above the worker is not an option due to the possibility of the crane passing the hook on point & therefore taking the worker off the top. Has anyone had experience of this & if so what solution did you come up with ?? The only option |I can think of is to find a way of attaching to the container itself . I hope I've made sense
Roundtuit  
#2 Posted : 05 September 2016 16:59:05(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Could you fabricate/purchase a pole to reach from the side of the container for hooking on or is it currently more complex with a four hook point spreader arrangement on the crane used for bulk tote bags?
Roundtuit  
#3 Posted : 05 September 2016 16:59:05(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Could you fabricate/purchase a pole to reach from the side of the container for hooking on or is it currently more complex with a four hook point spreader arrangement on the crane used for bulk tote bags?
chris42  
#4 Posted : 05 September 2016 17:07:37(UTC)
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chris42

in which we obviously us a cage on a forklift" Could you use a cherry picker ? That way you can get over the trailer to hook up and remain in the basket and clipped to it ? and / or Ask how the people the other end put it in there and unhooked. Chris
spenhse  
#5 Posted : 05 September 2016 22:40:27(UTC)
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spenhse

AL58 – Think, I understand what the task involves. Would ask what type of crane your using firstly i.e. hi-ab or mobile crane. And what is the load consist of. There is an easy way forward and a solution to the work process. What about hooking an inertia block to the crane lifting block, this would be a way forward. However, before jumping to this solution consider pre-slinging the load with longer lifting accessories that enable the load to be connected from the ground. To be honest unless have a complete understanding of the problem can only assume and give advice on your explanation. We have the same issues, which are resolved, once the load is viewed. Have you not got an Appointed Person that can advise on a solution? As stated, we have a load delivered to site that is just below 4m in height, from time to time, we have to climb up the load (using a ladder) to untangle the pre-slung web slings as they are obstructed. In these circumstances, have used a footed / tied off ladder and inertia block off the crane lifting block that is positioned directly above the load. The inertia block is considerable long, which enables us to clip the operative (slinger/signaller) on the floor direct to the fall arrest block. We do this as it is not practicable to use a Mobile Elevated Working Platform. If, you need more assistance get in touch
AL58  
#6 Posted : 06 September 2016 10:57:44(UTC)
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AL58

chris42 wrote:
in which we obviously us a cage on a forklift" Could you use a cherry picker ? That way you can get over the trailer to hook up and remain in the basket and clipped to it ? and / or Ask how the people the other end put it in there and unhooked. Chris HI Chris Thanks for the input. As this is an infrequent occurrence the hire /purchase of a cherry picker would be impractical & the other end is China !! Al
Invictus  
#7 Posted : 06 September 2016 10:59:06(UTC)
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Invictus

Can you not use bamboo scaffold
chris42  
#8 Posted : 06 September 2016 11:34:55(UTC)
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chris42

Ok but have you read guidance PM28 from HSE they use the phrase "exceptional circumstances only" although you use the word "infrequent" you might want to double check. A little concern also for getting out of said basket (or are you gaining access via ladder) to go on top of load ( whatever that is - load stability?). I'm not sure, but I know others on here will be, I thought you were not to anchor a person to the same equipment as you are lifting the load with ? As you say others must be carrying out this operation. Chris
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