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Its not always i have to ask for advice but i'm in a scenario and i'm not 100% sure of the Answer.
I have a guy on site who has a 1 day classroom course - 3 year long Health and Safety Certificate as the appointed first aider for his company.
But i've been told you need to do a 3 day course for doing a 3 year certificate. on the other hand
I have a guy who's done an online health and safety Course and thats 3 years too?
What is the legal requirement for a first aider??
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The 1 day is Emergency first aid at work, the other is first aid at work
http://www.hse.gov.uk/firstaid/first-aider.htm
If you look under the training provider tab it also gives some further detail on e-learning with regard to first aid
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jodieclark1510 wrote:The 1 day is Emergency first aid at work, the other is first aid at work
http://www.hse.gov.uk/firstaid/first-aider.htm
If you look under the training provider tab it also gives some further detail on e-learning with regard to first aid
Thanks for the quick reply, buy looking at the legislation and with only a max of 6 employees from this one company working on a site with several other large companies with their own first aiders. i would imagine with only 6 employees a 1 day emergency 1st aiders course would be the minimum requirement.
Even an appointed person would do but since this guy has the emergency first aider certificate (3 Years) that in my eyes is more than adequate.
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That sounds sensible to me Gerry,
It all depends on the circumstances and the injuries likely encountered.
In an office environment with low numbers Emergency First Aid at Work would suffice.
However if you had forklifts, machinery, dangerous substances, etc, then the "full" First Aid at Work would be required.
If you look on page 7 of the following pdf, there is a handy chart to help you, the whole PDF is worth a read.
http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/indg214.pdf
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Agree with Binniem if you are talking about a building site then it may not be sufficient
It may not be fair to count the other companies' first aiders in your assessment either, not without their prior knowledge or assent. By having your 6 operatives this may alter their ratios as well and they may not be comfortable with this.
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Thanks Marc and WatsonD
The first aider they have has done an emergency First Aid at Work Course which lasts for 3 years, With between 4 and 6 guys on that site at any one time would this be deemed sufficient, they will be assembling a staircase.
Whilst i've checked all the Method statement and Risk assessment i would say that this is suitable for the task in hand. They have a fully stocked first aid box and wear safety harnesses and fall arrest system for working at height.
As other contractors with 200 people on board have their own first aiders
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How many first aid persons do you have when the 1 first aider you have is on holiday or off sick?
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That sounds sensible to me Gerry,
It al depends on the circumstances and the injuries likely encountered.
In an office environment with low numbers Emergency First Aid at Work would suffice.
However if you had forklifts, machinery, dangerous substances, etc, then the "full" First Aid at Work would be required.
If you look on page 7 of the following pdf, there is a handy chart to help you, the whole PDF is worth a read.
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Originally Posted by: O&  How many first aid persons do you have when the 1 first aider you have is on holiday or off sick?
Gerry, we were recently pulled up in an 18001 audit for this issue.
My company only has 10 staff working in an office with the rest working offshore. We had 1 designated first aider, but if you've decided you need a first aider you'll need to provide cover when they're on annual leave.
We carried out a first aid needs assessment and came to the conclusion that seeing as we're 5 minutes away from a large hospital we didn't need a first aider on site. This was accepted as sensible and suitable by DNV during the following audit.
Hope that helps a bit.
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