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Question do you have to inspect a mezzanine floor if you move it from one location to another inside a factory. I was told by a structural engineer no! but the working at height regulations say the following. Every employer shall ensure that, where the safety of work equipment depends on how it is installed or assembled, it is not used after installation or assembly in any position unless it has been inspected in that position. This suggests that I do?
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Surely this project is being managed by a competent engineer - who would at the end "sign it off" as complete and safe? This hardly seems rocket science. IMHO visual inspection would be OK.
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this project is being managed by a competent engineer
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In response to the above the answer is yes the work was carried out by our engineering department. Being a new user and someone who doesn't use social media I was a bit nervous posting a question, that being said I wanted to try out the forum and I asked the wrong question. I should of explained that the mezzanine floor had been in use onsite since the early seventies covered by a studded wall, and was being relocated. All the correct precautions were taken (RAMS and Permits) and after the reinstall in the new location we noticed there was no working load for the structure. My advice to the team was to get it load tested. the reason for my post was to get feedback from the forum so that I could gain a bit of experience and confidence in future use. I have to say I probably will stay away from forums for advice, even if my question was not rocket science IMHO it should have been answered with advice not criticism. I thought this forum was for all levels of safety professionals !!
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Jonathan carl wrote:In response to the above the answer is yes the work was carried out by our engineering department. Being a new user and someone who doesn't use social media I was a bit nervous posting a question, that being said I wanted to try out the forum and I asked the wrong question. I should of explained that the mezzanine floor had been in use onsite since the early seventies covered by a studded wall, and was being relocated. All the correct precautions were taken (RAMS and Permits) and after the reinstall in the new location we noticed there was no working load for the structure. My advice to the team was to get it load tested. the reason for my post was to get feedback from the forum so that I could gain a bit of experience and confidence in future use. I have to say I probably will stay away from forums for advice, even if my question was not rocket science IMHO it should have been answered with advice not criticism. I thought this forum was for all levels of safety professionals !!
There is a level of one-upmanship, that's the H&S profession for you....
Pedantry is far more important than facts or opinion!
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Jonathan,
Good on you for for mentioning on it - It certainly wasn't necessary.
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I suspect you may have to apply and comply with Building Regulation. The relocation of a mezzanine floor is a significant structural alteration. It is the building regulation system that takes the lead with permanent structure. I would class a mezzanine floor as a permanent structure and they will also require reassurance that the floor can take the load set out in them. Please note the building regulation refer to a British Standard were you obtain the design load.
Internal and building control inspections will be required to ensure it is erected correctly.
I would not load test, although this is possible, a structural engineer should be able to work out if the structure can take the required load.
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Hi Jonathan, and welcome to Sniper's Alley!
You are essentially correct in your assertions, however the appropriate reference IMO would be Regulation 4 of the Workplace (Health Safety and Welfare) Regulations, and the associated guidance within L24 (sections 34-40).
Hope this helps.
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Jonathan. Clearly the PPE you should have been given when you registered has not yet arrived. Don't give up on the forum it can be a fantastic source of information, but you do have to be a bit thick skinned at times. Unfortunately sometimes we don't ask the question we think we are asking!
For me I agree with Ron I would view the mezzanine as part of the structure and not as equipment, but that will depend on construction methods used.
(and there you go there is often a BUT involved in the answer as we don't have all the facts!)
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Thanks guys, rhino skin arrived this morning so I think ill keep using the forum. On a positive note I have gained some experience, so next time I post a question or opinion I will not be to worried on feedback thanks to the people who left advice.
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Puzzled. In what part of my reply did I give any criticism?
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PIKEMAN wrote:Puzzled. In what part of my reply did I give any criticism?
It may not have been intended but "It hardly seems like rocket science." came across as quite dismissive of the OP's query.
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