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rickstefanetti84  
#1 Posted : 06 October 2016 10:00:31(UTC)
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rickstefanetti84

Morning all,

As a landlord of a building with multiple offices, occupied by multiple tennants, what H&S responsibillities would you have? at present, all extinguisher servicing, legionella testing, fire alarm testing and emergency light testing is done by the landlord. Is there anything else that should be done? we also perform a monthly safety tour ensuring access and egress and the general confition of the building is up to standard also.

RayRapp  
#2 Posted : 06 October 2016 11:18:43(UTC)
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RayRapp

What about the FRA, who carries this out? Asbestos register, unless the property was built post 2000. Has the building recently had a ECIR? Do you have any dry/wet risers? PAT inspections? Gas certificate? Any lifts which need inspection and testing?
shaky  
#3 Posted : 06 October 2016 11:29:20(UTC)
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shaky

Does your building have in use any equipment classed as pressure systems? which need a written scheme of examination.

rickstefanetti84  
#4 Posted : 06 October 2016 11:30:09(UTC)
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rickstefanetti84

Hi Rayrapp,

thanks for your reply, really appreciate it. I can confirm the lift, gas supply, ECIR are all performed by the landlord also. There are no risers, dry or wet and the property was built in 2007, so no asbestos.

With regards to the FRA, that was another query we had. We are going to request all tennants have this done and then submit to us once complete. Going forward, we are then going to request documents such as proof of insurance and FRA's etc on a yearly basis.

Do you think that seems like a reasonable approach?

RayRapp  
#5 Posted : 06 October 2016 11:44:08(UTC)
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RayRapp

Rick Sounds like a perfectly reasonable approach to me.
peter gotch  
#6 Posted : 06 October 2016 12:02:18(UTC)
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peter gotch

...but you also need a fire risk assessment for the common parts.

rickstefanetti84  
#7 Posted : 06 October 2016 12:39:04(UTC)
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rickstefanetti84

Thank you both for your replys.

And I agree on the common parts FRA. I have asked each tennant to provide us with a FRA for their respective areas and as the ladlord, we will be providing our FRA which will cover the common parts of the building.

Thanks again for your help and advice!

Xavier123  
#8 Posted : 06 October 2016 13:56:21(UTC)
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Xavier123

Speaknig of legionella, HSG274 Part 2 has a section on shared premises that sets out the framework for a fairly reasonable and legal approach to addressing this sort of issue across all hazard types.  Look at the contracts, co-operate and co-ordinate where risks are shared, and ensure you fulfil your side of the duties.  Where there is overlap e.g. escape routes, water systems etc., then make sure you all discuss those overlaps and ensure everything works as expected by all.  Timely communication between parties always likely to be the most critical thing....which tenants are often incapable of doing.  So good luck!

MEden380  
#9 Posted : 06 October 2016 15:01:35(UTC)
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MEden380

Rick

One issue involving fire safety is the requirement for all tennants to liaise with each other in the event of an evacuation. Normal procedure would be to have an anual meeting to discus any issues, such as any any individuals that may be disabled in any way and any special requirements arising from the personal evacution plan - last ones to come down a fire escape to prevent holding ambulant persons up on the stairs.

rickstefanetti84  
#10 Posted : 06 October 2016 15:09:35(UTC)
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rickstefanetti84

Great point MEden380!

We make a point of regularly communicating with all tennants and we do have a procedure in place with a "one out all out" policy. The fire alarm does cover the whole building too and is interlinked etc.

I certainly think formalising the communication process by planned annual meetings would be a great idea. would also make sense to do this following a fire drill too perhaps to also debrief the drill ans then cascade the information back to their respective areas.

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