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Roundtuit  
#1 Posted : 31 October 2016 19:34:54(UTC)
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Roundtuit

http://www.techspot.com/news/66862-volvo-self-driving-cars-arrive-uk-roads-unmarked.html

So how will your driving policy accomodate the plan to have unmarked autonomous vehicles on UK roads?

Past experience dictated that autonomous vehicles in the workplace were fitted with beacons and buzzers but these Volvo's will be in "stealth" mode.

You may wish to bring this up with fleet management and/or company secretary as UK insurers currently penalise ALL parties involved in an accident (not only those directly at fault) when it comes to renewal.

e.g. 1 - car parked in a marked bay, driver in office when struck by a reversing truck = premium increase for the cars DRIVER

e.g. 2 - car parked legitimately in road, driver at work when vehicle struck by an unattended vehicle rolling off a driveway = premium increase for the cars DRIVER

Roundtuit  
#2 Posted : 31 October 2016 19:34:54(UTC)
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Roundtuit

http://www.techspot.com/news/66862-volvo-self-driving-cars-arrive-uk-roads-unmarked.html

So how will your driving policy accomodate the plan to have unmarked autonomous vehicles on UK roads?

Past experience dictated that autonomous vehicles in the workplace were fitted with beacons and buzzers but these Volvo's will be in "stealth" mode.

You may wish to bring this up with fleet management and/or company secretary as UK insurers currently penalise ALL parties involved in an accident (not only those directly at fault) when it comes to renewal.

e.g. 1 - car parked in a marked bay, driver in office when struck by a reversing truck = premium increase for the cars DRIVER

e.g. 2 - car parked legitimately in road, driver at work when vehicle struck by an unattended vehicle rolling off a driveway = premium increase for the cars DRIVER

achrn  
#3 Posted : 01 November 2016 08:01:50(UTC)
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achrn

Are you assuming the autonomous vehicle is more likely to crash into something than one under the control of a human being?  That seems to be the implication of your post, but it isn't reflected in the results of the trials so far reported.

RayRapp  
#4 Posted : 01 November 2016 08:14:27(UTC)
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RayRapp

I think there is still a long way to go before so-called autonomous vehicles are permitted to go on the public highway. The truth is, we have not yet mitigated other undesirable aspects of driving, such as agressive driving, speeding, drinking, using mobile phones, etc. I dare say insurance companies will have the final say in any case.
Roundtuit  
#5 Posted : 01 November 2016 10:31:26(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Based on their limited mileage to date autonomous vehicles do appear safer with a few notable exceptions e.g. the Tesla that ran in to the side of a big-rig because "it" did not see the trailer.

Where a driver is unaware that a vehicle is not being operated by a human they will fail to make adequate provision for its faster reactions in braking and manoeuvring.

I will even condemn adaptive cruise control where on more than one occasion I have watched the following vehicle loom very large in the rear view mirror as my car rapidly and automatically slows in reaction to a vehicle that has swerved in to its path.

We make human learner drivers advertise their presence to other road users - these road trials are no more than the system (programmers and engineers) learning to drive away from the controlled environment of a closed test track.

Rays comment about the insurance companies making the final decision is very concerning given they seem to penalise everyone to ensure profit - society makes the laws for society to abide by and I don't think we have had the informed debate as to who would be considered to be "in control" of a fully autonomous vehicle.

Roundtuit  
#6 Posted : 01 November 2016 10:31:26(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Based on their limited mileage to date autonomous vehicles do appear safer with a few notable exceptions e.g. the Tesla that ran in to the side of a big-rig because "it" did not see the trailer.

Where a driver is unaware that a vehicle is not being operated by a human they will fail to make adequate provision for its faster reactions in braking and manoeuvring.

I will even condemn adaptive cruise control where on more than one occasion I have watched the following vehicle loom very large in the rear view mirror as my car rapidly and automatically slows in reaction to a vehicle that has swerved in to its path.

We make human learner drivers advertise their presence to other road users - these road trials are no more than the system (programmers and engineers) learning to drive away from the controlled environment of a closed test track.

Rays comment about the insurance companies making the final decision is very concerning given they seem to penalise everyone to ensure profit - society makes the laws for society to abide by and I don't think we have had the informed debate as to who would be considered to be "in control" of a fully autonomous vehicle.

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