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Victor Meldrew  
#1 Posted : 29 October 2016 09:41:55(UTC)
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Victor Meldrew

FFI raised £14.7m for 2015-2016. However it cost the HSE £17.5m to actually rercover the FFI. Hhmmm.

thanks 1 user thanked Victor Meldrew for this useful post.
Steve e ashton on 29/10/2016(UTC)
Steve e ashton  
#2 Posted : 29 October 2016 11:57:50(UTC)
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Steve e ashton

whoops!

Roundtuit  
#3 Posted : 29 October 2016 13:40:26(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Pretty much sums up what happens when any government function tries to act like a commercial business.

Failure of the agency or excessive "rip-off" by yet another external party given a licence to print money?

Roundtuit  
#4 Posted : 29 October 2016 13:40:26(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Pretty much sums up what happens when any government function tries to act like a commercial business.

Failure of the agency or excessive "rip-off" by yet another external party given a licence to print money?

Xavier123  
#5 Posted : 31 October 2016 08:36:56(UTC)
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Xavier123

It'd be interesting to see the breakdown of those costs though.

I mean, it is meant to be cost-recovery (regardless of our combined thoughts on that).  So if it includes the time spent undertaking the visit, writing the letter etc., then arguably those were inevitable anyway.

Mick C  
#6 Posted : 03 November 2016 08:10:12(UTC)
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Mick C

Can someone post a weblink or reference of the FFI costs please.
Andrew Ramsey  
#7 Posted : 03 November 2016 16:23:18(UTC)
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Andrew Ramsey

Page 63 Mick

http://www.hse.gov.uk/aboutus/reports/ara-2015-16.pdf

score  
#8 Posted : 04 November 2016 11:08:21(UTC)
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score

HSE should raise their prices to cover their losses!
walker  
#9 Posted : 04 November 2016 11:12:18(UTC)
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walker

Originally Posted by: score Go to Quoted Post
HSE should raise their prices to cover their losses!

Good idea!

The more "failure" costs a business, the more likely the bean counters will realise competent H&S advice make good sense. 

chris42  
#10 Posted : 04 November 2016 12:12:54(UTC)
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chris42

I thought that when FFI was first discussed that they were expecting to recover double that amout in fees? I suspect that companys are not better than first thought, so .....?

Victor Meldrew  
#11 Posted : 04 November 2016 15:58:34(UTC)
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Victor Meldrew

Originally Posted by: score Go to Quoted Post
HSE should raise their prices to cover their losses!

They have done - by 4%.

chris42  
#12 Posted : 04 November 2016 16:52:08(UTC)
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chris42

Originally Posted by: Victor Meldrew Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: score Go to Quoted Post
HSE should raise their prices to cover their losses!

They have done - by 4%.

I think I see the problem, no good at maths. They need to increase their prices by just over 19% to break even, so 4% is still going to leave them short.

Not difficult 17.5 - 14.7 = 2.8

(2.8/14.7)*100 = 19.04762%

Go for 20% to help fund the rest of HSE, say updating RIDDOR guidance :o)

Chris

Kloppite  
#13 Posted : 08 November 2016 13:38:25(UTC)
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Kloppite

Originally Posted by: chris42 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Victor Meldrew Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: score Go to Quoted Post
HSE should raise their prices to cover their losses!

They have done - by 4%.

I think I see the problem, no good at maths. They need to increase their prices by just over 19% to break even, so 4% is still going to leave them short.

Not difficult 17.5 - 14.7 = 2.8

(2.8/14.7)*100 = 19.04762%

Go for 20% to help fund the rest of HSE, say updating RIDDOR guidance :o)

Chris

Don't you just hate a  maths genius ;-)
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