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Apart from the flimsy desk flags does anybody else have a product or idea how to easily identify first aiders in an open office, which doesn't require people to ignore the first aider information on the HSE noticeboards?
Does anybody know of some clips that go on partitions? I don't really want to reduce desk space by getting more clutter.
Thanks
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https://www.aid-training.co.uk/first-aid-flag
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Hi Chris,
Those flags are very flimsy... Is this really the only product available? There must be something better, no?
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Well you could just buy a "First aid Post" sign (thin plastice and use double sided sticky tape or velcro). Exactly how mutch abuse does the sign have to withstand ? I think I have it now Obviously not quite there yet, it said it would redirect me when I clicked post - it lied, so much for the instructions. Edited by user 11 November 2016 16:02:57(UTC)
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Couple of possible alternatives I found :
This one allows you to print off photos/names of the first aiders(s) and put them in good visible locations - has the added benefit of just printing off new copies if/when your first aider changes: http://www.diversesigns-...th=84&product_id=796
Or you could always go with an armband/hi-vis vest if you don't want flags? eg: http://www.plpsafetysign...earch&search=armband
Another option is to hang a sign from the ceiling above the relevant desk?
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Ok something for the desk partion, which you could put a first aid sign into. This may or may not work
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and again Ok I give up with pictures ( by the way who wrote " You are not having any attachments yet" I can't help but say that in a bad Indian accent.) http://www.officesigncompany.com/cubicle_signs_workstation.aspx
Other places probably sell them It is a plain bracket to go on a partion and you can put what you like in it. I admit I would not want a flag either :o) Chris Edited by user 11 November 2016 16:52:11(UTC)
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I had never thought of having flags pointing out first-aiders. Is that normal practice in offices? If a first-aider leaves their desk, do they take the flag with them, do they just take it down?
We have mugshots names and internal phone numbers on a laminated sign that is on the wall beside every first-aid kit and also in every kitchen / hot drinks station (partly because of our in-office accidents, they mostly seem to occur in kitchens - dangerous things, mugs and milk-bottles, and partly because everyone goes into the kitchen most days, and lots of people hang around under guise of waiting for their tea to brew etc). That is, basically what grim72 suggests.
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In the first instance of any incident in any situation requiring medical attention, call 999 and ask for an ambulance. Being able to identify a first aider in an office environment is simply a waste of your time. Should an incident happen, I am sure the first aider will make themselves known.
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Originally Posted by: Kim Hedges  In the first instance of any incident in any situation requiring medical attention, call 999 and ask for an ambulance.Being able to identify a first aider in an office environment is simply a waste of your time.Should an incident happen, I am sure the first aider will make themselves known.
I'm sorry but have to disagree, a small cut to the hand can be easily dealt with by a first aider - are we really suggesting calling for an ambulance for a minor cut? We should be doing our bit where possible to ease the burden on the NHS not swamping it with minor injuries that can be dealt with in the workplace and by a first aider.
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My last point would probably cover that in an open office scenario. Most first aiders are only to ready and willing to use their knowledge.
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Is there anything wrong with simply posting the names of your first aiders on the first aid kit? I assume your first aid box is attached to a wall in a convienient area of the office. For minor cuts and scrapes employees may seek out or are directed to first aiders.
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I had never heard of flags either. I am struggling to find a situation where the seeking of/ giving of first aid would be compromised because there was no flag. With the flag, the person with the injury should look for the flag (no eye injuries then) and make their way over to the desk in question (no mobility injuries), and if the person has gone of for the loo, simply sit there and wait for their return?
Surely, an induction would initially identify first aiders (how big is staff turnover)? And raising the alarm by calling out - it is an open plan office after all. Is this an office where no-one is alowed to speak louder than a whisper?
I hope someone can give me a valid scenario where this mitigates a significant risk and this isn't the H&S industry equivalent of snake oil.
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Desk dividers often have a round, vertical slot in them (with a lid you can take off to reveal it). The flags fit in to these and then don't wobble as they do when you put them directly on the desk.
Calling 999 because someone has a cut hand that needs cleaning and a plaster, or is feeling faint and needs looking after - I don't think so!
No the flags aren't a must-have - they just make getting first aid easier and friendlier.
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