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Anyone listen to the SHP podcast called the Battle of Ideas? John O'Roukes idea that safety is broken? Is zero harm a good idea? What about 'Health' mental health? It was interesting, but all about the soft skills, I'm not sure how these ideas would be received by the authorities after an incident. And I'm also thinking about what an auditor would think about a system that does not value paperwork as much as they do. Does anyone else have any insights?
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Hi Graham, I didn't listen to the podcast but I saw yesterday that the NEBOSH Diploma is changing to include more "soft skills" and it's something the NCRQ Diploma is being praised for.
I personnaly like this shift in focus as I think it's something that's critical to our proffesion and deserves to have some attention.
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Haven't heard debate in full yet (waiting for recording link) but have done a lot of reading around this.
But - do we do safety for auditors? Or should auditors adapt?
Just saying . . .
Also totally agree with the need for soft skills; better late than never I suppose NEBOSH.
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I listened to the podcast. It was interesting to hear that there are considerable differences in opinion on whether H&S is broken or just 'stalled' as one participant put it. Soft skills are needed to improve our profession but there doesn't appear to be a one size fits all approach. What works for one company may not work for another and I sometimes feel we are trying to please all the people all the time which I don't think we will ever do. I certainly did not agree with some things that were being said, but therein lies my point. To a degree compliance as a minimum is our only real option at the moment and I doubt that will change anytime soon.
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bit late to the party... i wasn't aware there was a podcast for H&S. Anyone know where I can find this?
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I believe it will be available through the SHP website but not until next week.
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I listened to the podcast yesterday, I thought that both sides of the discussion were well reasoned, and agree that equal emphasis should be placed on Health instead of the overriding focus on safety. I think the increased focus on soft skills and employee empowerment is a move in the right direction, but there will always be the need for robust policies and procedures, the key is finding the right balance for the company/organisation you work for
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Did not hear the pod cast, but have picked up the gist from the postings. To widen the subject of the Battle of Ideas, the HASAWA was a radical and innovative approach to how we looked at H&S in the workplace. It was designed to allow us to evolve going forward to reflect changes in the work environment and the workforce, this I believe we have failed to do. Having failed to evolve perhaps it is time to look instead at a second 'revolution' in H&S. Brexit, for all its pros and cons, affords us the opportunity to do this. Rather than review and revise the current arrangements I would like to see IOSH actively lobbying the Government, as part of triggering Article 50, to set up another 'Robens' committee. Made up of all the relevant stakeholders this committee would have no restrictions on what was up for change, or removal. For example this could include the role of the enforcement agencies, and the legal status of ACOPs. The possibilities are only limited by our imagination.
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The concept of 'soft skills' has been examined in relation to safety management quite some time ago in several research papers by a Canadian safety psychologist Kevin Kelloway. The applied research on social network analysis, which some HR people in the UK are using, is also very relevant to any safety practitioners interested in raising standards of practice where they can.
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So-called 'soft skills' have been part of a h&s practitioner's skill set for as long as I have been a practitioner. That said, I'm not really sure exactly what is or is not a 'soft skill' and therefore I have some difficulties with this aspect. I note job adverts where they ask for skills or behaviours such as, good communicator, commercially aware, flexible, sensitive and so on, are these 'soft skills' or euphemisms for something else I wonder? I know in the past I have taken one for the team on many occasions - but it's not on my CV!
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Soft skills have become a bit of a buzzword (I blame HR professionals) largely because people can be very experienced and qualified but in the main you are also looking for someone who will fit in and work well in your company. Soft-skills defined as: personal attributes that enable someone to interact effectively and harmoniously with other people. should be something we all learn throughout school and work and life in general AKA life or people skills.. Therefore, most of us shouldn't really need to undertake sepaerate study for these.
I do agree they are important but I think they should be kept seperate to a professional qualification.
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We did ‘soft skills’ on my diploma course, except we called it ‘touchy-feely c**p’. In fact we decided that it was important but as a way of getting the H&S message across not as an end in itself. I have not heard the podcast but from the quotes that have been made it might be very North America based and there they seem very systems driven. The problem with H&S seems to be that it is often seen as remote and simply not relevant to what people are actually doing and more often than not H&S requirements seem to revolve around getting past various compliance hurdles rather than honestly looking at what you need to do to make things better. Things like that are hard to audit. As said ‘soft skills’ is something that HR people like and it can be very frustrating. A few years ago we revamped the induction system and I did the H&S bit. It thought it was short, punchy and to the point. But the HR people did not like it. They showed me their efforts which was of course beautiful and uplifting; after seeing it you could not help but feel enhanced until you realised that in the 45 minutes they had talked to you still had no idea how to claim expenses, book a holiday, call in sick or raise a complaint.
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I did listen to the podcast and the primary soft skill talked about was engaging people (in contrast to the old-fashioned policing style). This is obviously crucial.
I was not convinced by the 'safety is broken' argument. It may be true that fatalities are not falling, but it's not the case that things are getting worse. Current H&S practices could be keeping things as they are and preventing them worsening - that's not a system that is broken, but one that as another speaker said needed to evolve. Or then again, maybe we have gone about as far as we can on safety and it would be more productive to focus on health.
I was also surprised by the claim that studies show the opposite of accident-triangle concept that lots of minor injuries means an increased risk of serious injury. I'm aware that the accident triangle has been discredited, but is it really the case that there is a negative correlation between minor and serious injuries so a high rate of minor accidents can be seen as protective??
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I may be barking up the wrong tree here, but if you substitute "soft skills" with "emotional intelligence" you may find that it isn't just a buzzword but one of the most important skillsets that successful leaders demonstrate time and time again. It is about getting the message across without being dictatorial. It is about understanding and empathising with the barriers to change and finding a way forward which empowers those who need to change to do so themselves.
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Originally Posted by: Liddell45728  I may be barking up the wrong tree here, but if you substitute "soft skills" with "emotional intelligence" you may find that it isn't just a buzzword but one of the most important skillsets that successful leaders demonstrate time and time again. It is about getting the message across without being dictatorial. It is about understanding and empathising with the barriers to change and finding a way forward which empowers those who need to change to do so themselves.
I agree and I was taught this in a C&G management course 40 years ago, it was common practice then so is nowt new.
Put simply: Do unto others as you would have them do unto you".
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All fine and dandy - but soft skills could easily translate to a soft touch. Those who work in construction related industries will be aware of the pressures of working with 'red necks' who don't comply with basic safety requirements who when you raise these issues, nicely of course, they tell you to go forth and multiply. Sometimes you have to stand your ground...or you have lost the battle.
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