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A Kurdziel  
#1 Posted : 24 November 2016 12:30:49(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

This article is a bit depressing

http://www.ioshmagazine.com/article/behavioural-safety-container-ports-masks-poor-osh-culture-study-finds

 

It seems that a like a lot of organisations the ports business talks about behavioural safety but  really just want to deal with stuff at  the lowest level and dump H&S on the operators rather take up to the management  level where it belongs. Looking at some threads that come up on this forum it seems that a lot of businesses seem to think of H&S like this. What is the best approach to get the guys in the suits and nice offices to think about H&S as a global corporate culture issue, rather than something that, is just dealt with by screwing down on the operators ?

Mr.Flibble2.0  
#2 Posted : 24 November 2016 15:39:12(UTC)
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Mr.Flibble2.0

Management blame the Operators - 'They don't follow the procedures or do what they are told'

Operators blame the Management - 'Management don't listen or take safety seriously'

What we need to do is get everyone working of the same page and don't blame everyone else for the problems. Until everyone is working together and respecting each other Management or Operator things will never change

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walker on 06/12/2016(UTC)
Paul Burts Chips  
#3 Posted : 25 November 2016 15:18:55(UTC)
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Paul Burts Chips

Well said Mr Fibble totaly agree!!

KieranD  
#4 Posted : 06 December 2016 10:55:25(UTC)
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KieranD

Several research papers in several peer-reviewed journals by E Kevin Kelloway, a Canadian safety psychologist, and his colleagues report on effectiveness of training in 'Transformational leadership' that is safety specific, in particular papers that reported on TLSS compared to 'passive' safety management (of the kind outlined in the article you refer to) and on 'inconsistant safety leadership that veered between TLSS and safety-passive leadership.

There's alao an interesting report in Social Marketing Quarterly on social network analysis applied to diffusing safety leadership in the agricultural sector.

Arguably, a valuable innovation in the UK would include training in TLSS in several organisations, with before and after measures of practices of social networking by managers including safety leaders.

walker  
#5 Posted : 06 December 2016 11:50:03(UTC)
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walker

Largest proponent of Behavioural Safety in the UK in the last 20 years was..

…… BP and we know how that worked out

Finding from the Inquiry into the BP Texas City oil disaster:Management focused on Behaviour and took their eye off the safety process.

WatsonD  
#6 Posted : 06 December 2016 12:02:07(UTC)
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WatsonD

Originally Posted by: KieranD Go to Quoted Post

 'Transformational leadership'

I don't care how many research papers have been written by E Kevin Kelloway that is not a word. Someone just realised you couldn't call it Change Management (been done) a just decided to [expletive deleted]ise the english language instead

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walker on 06/12/2016(UTC)
johnmurray  
#7 Posted : 06 December 2016 21:47:23(UTC)
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johnmurray

"Transformational leadership is a style of leadership where a leader works with subordinates to identify needed change, creating a vision to guide the change through inspiration, and executing the change in tandem with committed members of a group"

Yes....

Passing the buck in other words.

Pity the guy at th end of the queue.

More like "musical chairs with peoples lives and health"

Good old English Industry. Never kill today what you can kill tomorrow in triplicate.

KieranD  
#8 Posted : 08 December 2016 09:26:53(UTC)
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KieranD

It is timely to highlight the misconception reported in the research of Waters and Wadsworth on the part of sernior managers who fail to follow through on the ideal of 'behavioural safety.

At the same time, it is utterl;y false to assert that Transformational leadership has the same effect - an expression of bigotry and ignorance without a shred of evidence. Such falsehood and bigotry  contributes to beliefs about the safety practitioners  as hostile to research, which as Loftsted demonstrated in 2011, is a bulwark of bona fide professional work.

Safety-specific Transformational Leadership is actually a specific form of cultural change, in which leaders at all leaders are accountable for developing and coaching those who report to them.  It has the advangtages of sharing the framework of a style of management widely practised in other areas of management and of building on decades of rigorous statistical analysis.

Social network analysis can directly address the problem hightlighted by Waters and Wadsworth.  It has the advantage that it is already used in state-of-the-art HR practitioners recognised as pacemakers in employee engagement in growing firms in the IT sector, in the UK and abroad.

Safety will continue to struggle with lack of recognition to the extent that practitioners simply react emotively rather than gather relevant evidence and evaluate it.

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