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I'm reviewing the monthly H&S report that I produce for our Directors/Managers. The curent report details the AFR for the month that we are reporting on but its been raised that this figure on its own doesnt mean much and some of the directors have stated that they want this figure to be benchmarked against an 'industry standard' ie, if its less than 0.1 (just a random figure) they are doing ok, if its higher then it needs to be looked at in greater detail.
In addition to this some directors have stated that they want AFR statistics to be produced on a 'rolling' basis to monitor performance.
I'm keen to findout how others report on monthly AFR's and is these can be benchmarked, any input/feedback would be very much appreciated Martin#1
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Martin, benchmarking against other organisations even in your own industry is very problematic. How different organisations record AFRs/IFRs varies quite considerably, as does the size of organisations and prevailing risks. It's a bit like comparing your profit and loss with another company - what would that really tell you?
Rather than just focusing on lagging indicators such as AFRs why not review your leading indicators - for example, inspections/ audits carried out, corrective actions from them, senior management tours, etc. These proactive measures will tell you more about the company h&s performance than a bunch of AFRs.
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Martin, I tend to agree with Ray on this one as stats can be misleading & can be a "turn-off" for a Board meeting that may just "note" the contents. About 9 months ago, one of my Clients asked me to produce a H&S report to the Board & what has gone down well is a "RAG" style, whereby I outline, what, in my professional opinion, could give them sleepless nights, but also as important, an indicator where things have improved. I also inform them of any changes in legislation, industry guidance etc. as well as any enforcement activity in similar sectors. Some recent fines have certainly made them think!! Last, but not least, it might be worth asking them what they would like to see, but I do appreciate that they may not know!!
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It's the classic "statistics will say whatever you want them to say" problem - if you are 'better' than others, assuming a level playing field what's the best that'll happen - Complacency?
I 'benchmark' against our own figures for the same period the previous year (or years). A smaller sample, but it's all the senior managers need to worry about. Until it gets to zero (never going to happen) they can feel they are getting a return on my effort, but know there is still work to do. If it goes up, then the issue is one close to home, not "oh, but that's 'cause others have improved"
Their responsibility extends to their undertaking, I always recomend avoiding clouding their views with how others are doing. (though as an H&S professional I agree it is worth US knowing roughly where we stand, but the variables are huge)
Al
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Thanks for comments and feedback. I agree with the points raised and think I just need to try and slowly develop the monthly report to shift the focus away from the monthly AFR figure(s) onto other sections which will give a better indication of how the businesses are performing in terms of H&S
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Sorry, One last question on AFR's. I've used the following formula to calculate company AFR's over a twelve month period, No of RIDDOR's times 100,000 and divided this by the number of hours worked in the year. One business (that has had a RIDDOR) is showing as having an AFR of 0.67.
Does this mean that everyone who works for that business will (statistically) experience 0.67 RIDDOR injuries in their working life?
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Originally Posted by: Martin#1  One business (that has had a RIDDOR) is showing as having an AFR of 0.67.
Does this mean that everyone who works for that business will (statistically) experience 0.67 RIDDOR injuries in their working life?
Patently not, because 0.67 riddor injuries makes no sense. How do you 0.67 break a limb? Or 0.67 lose consciousness due to head injury? You either suffer a riddor injury or you don't. You can't 0.67 suffer a riddor injury.
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Originally Posted by: Martin#1  Sorry, One last question on AFR's. I've used the following formula to calculate company AFR's over a twelve month period, No of RIDDOR's times 100,000 and divided this by the number of hours worked in the year. One business (that has had a RIDDOR) is showing as having an AFR of 0.67.
Does this mean that everyone who works for that business will (statistically) experience 0.67 RIDDOR injuries in their working life?
Yes, it is a statistical average, but to get an average you will have some that do and some that don't. I was told in the past that the 100,000 was the approx. number of working hours in a lifetime 40 hours a week x 50 weeks a year x 50 years ish (or it is just a number to make the outcome more understandable). I guess if your directors have asked for it, let them have it. Sometimes you can be asked in tenders depending on your industry. Is it really meaningful, probably not, but gives you something to aim at I guess.
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There are lies, damned lies and statistics - Rather than benchmarking why not use the statistical technique CUSUM (cumulative sum) - this graph is never horizontal (even if you have several months of zero reports) it is either increasing or decreasing i.e. upward or downward trend
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There are lies, damned lies and statistics - Rather than benchmarking why not use the statistical technique CUSUM (cumulative sum) - this graph is never horizontal (even if you have several months of zero reports) it is either increasing or decreasing i.e. upward or downward trend
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Originally Posted by: Martin#1  Sorry, One last question on AFR's. I've used the following formula to calculate company AFR's over a twelve month period, No of RIDDOR's times 100,000 and divided this by the number of hours worked in the year. One business (that has had a RIDDOR) is showing as having an AFR of 0.67.
Does this mean that everyone who works for that business will (statistically) experience 0.67 RIDDOR injuries in their working life?
What it means is that over a life time working at that company the odds 67% that they will have a RIDDOR reportable accident. This is off course based everyone working for the company. You could break it down and look at parts of the business and then work out the odds for those more ‘risky’ bits having a RIDDOR. A note of caution most businesses have so few RIDDOR that the statistics can become very unrealistic.
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And don't forget the positive improvements made no matter how small.
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Although you don't see it used all that much in the UK, I've always found that ASR is a good method of calculation as this shows the number of days lost (and days lost equals money lost!) No of days lost x 200,000 / hours worked The 200,000 multiplyer is used a lot in America and is supposed to represent the average number of hours worked by a group of 100 people over the course of a year (well, 50 weeks but i believe the "missing" two weeks is to allow for public holidays etc). I'm not normally a fan of Americanisms but found this to be a very useful way of making the figures seem more understandable, given that we are a company of approx 100 staff. For example, if we take last year (before i worked here), the figures were ASR: 48.89 AFR: 1.11 On their own those figures mean nothing but you look at them as numbers against a group of 100 people, they start to become a lot more "real". ASR: 48.89 days lost due to injury/illness each year for every 100 staff AFR: 1.11 RIDDORs each year for every 100 staff Edited by user 13 March 2017 11:59:18(UTC)
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