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jodieclark1510  
#1 Posted : 19 April 2017 15:58:09(UTC)
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jodieclark1510

Hello,

A quick question if I can please- would a contractor undertaking a refurbishment of the retail area of a petrol station (not the forecourt) be required to hold a petrol passport?

Any help would be greatly appreciated, thank you.

andy.f  
#2 Posted : 20 April 2017 09:08:33(UTC)
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andy.f

This depends firstly if it’s a requirement of the client or principal contractor. I believe petrol passports are purely a good standard as appose to a legal requirement. If you are not working within any of the hazardous zones which will generally be in external areas, then clearance certificates etc shouldn’t be required.  Strict procedures should obviously apply for any hot works internally and thought to any hot works for pipe connections to external plant. Hot works externally would most certainly need to be carried out by contractors that have had additional training such as the petrol passport, so they have a good understanding of vapour zones and what they can and can’t do.

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jodieclark1510 on 20/04/2017(UTC)
Ron Hunter  
#3 Posted : 20 April 2017 12:17:58(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

Potential for specialist overlap if refurb extends to replacement of kiosk terminal end of metering/ullage cabling at the duct coming from the forecourtwithin shop area.

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jodieclark1510 on 20/04/2017(UTC)
jodieclark1510  
#4 Posted : 20 April 2017 12:43:21(UTC)
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jodieclark1510

Thank you for your posts, it is appreciated.

Stern  
#5 Posted : 20 April 2017 16:56:44(UTC)
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Stern

In a previous life working as a main contractor for alot of the big retailers, we would often manage refurbs of petrol stations. During this time, the PFS would be completely closed, fenced off and the pumps isolated. There is a recognised permit system for isolating the pumps and handing over control of the PFS but i can;t remeber what it's called.

The general rule of our main client (i won't name them but their name rhymes with al fresco) was that you needed the UKPIA safety passport if working on the forecourt. This obviously applied to those replacing or refurbing pumps as well as those undertaking general construction work on the forecourt. Those working inside the shop area did not require the UKPIA card (although i'm sure the UKPIA still say you should have one).

As has been suggested already, talking to the client is a good start as they may already have a policy on this. I would also suggest contacting the UKPIA and also booking yourself onto the course to give you a better understanding of the area. The course is 2 days long. Feel free to sleep through the first day as it's just general H&S. It's not until day 2 that you learn anything PFS related. 

jodieclark1510  
#6 Posted : 21 April 2017 08:01:26(UTC)
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jodieclark1510

Thank you Stern, it is appreciated.

andy.f  
#7 Posted : 21 April 2017 09:45:11(UTC)
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andy.f

Just to add to Sterns advice with regards to attending the course and the 1st day being a core safety day. There are a list of courses i.e nebosh, iosh that exempt you from needing to attend the 1st day, meaning you can just attend the petrol station element on day 2.

Link below.

http://www.safetypassports.co.uk/exemptions/

jodieclark1510  
#8 Posted : 21 April 2017 09:55:13(UTC)
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jodieclark1510

Thank you, it is appreciated.

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