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We employ PAYE tradesmen, who is responsible for the PAT of their personal electrical equipment,us or themselves ?
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Hi Curious,
You would be responsible in my opinion as they are employed. I am surprised also you suggest it is their equipment - do they supply their own tools?
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They supply their own battery drills and some power saws .
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The Electricity at Work Regulations places this duty on the employer.
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Originally Posted by: Curious1  They supply their own battery drills and some power saws .
Then I'd defintiely say covering the cost of PAT is a fair exchange regardless of duty. Getting it done in bulk is cheaper per item anyway.
We have one of our guys trained to do it and they make sure they get around to each engineers van every 3 months. Big intiial set up cost though with raining and the PAT test equipment.
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Perhaps better to approach this from a PUWER perspective. Work equipment safety involves a lot more than PAT testing (which is not itself mandatory).
If these are your employees, the employer retains responsibilities to ensure equipment is safe,compliant and fit for purpose.
Not forgetting HAVS responsibilities.
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Don't forget that many Power tools are categorised as "double insulated" (requiring testing 4 yearly)
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gary, Don't forget that there is no specific requirement in law for PAT. The requirement is for the equipment to be safe. The IET CoP is only a guide, in table 7.1, and even the HSE only "suggest" intervals in HSG107 Table 1, and tradesmens tools would fall more into construction site equipment, or possibly light industrial, or hand held double insulated, none of which would reach a 4 year timescale. It is down to RA really, and some trades really, do not get electrical safety!
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Thanks Paul, l know that further user checks/inspections and regular maintenance plays a big part in the safety of electrical appliances. Working in a very large organisation, every tool and process is risk assessed and a policy is in place for PAT.
Are you suggesting that you would carry out the PAT on a more regular basis if it is construction tooling because of the nature of the environment and usage?
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Gary Edited by user 27 April 2017 06:40:20(UTC)
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Yes I would be recommending more frequently, some trades still don't get electrical safety,then you have people from different cultures with different outlooks, the environment also plays a part.
Potentially unfinished work, so rough / sharp edges to snag and damage cables.
The potential for tool bodies to be damaged due to being dropped, this then being ignored due to the time pressure on the work these days.
I would also be looking for historical data & the users to be proactive.
It's the last 2 things that I would use to extend the period above that in the IET CoP.
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