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Eddy  
#1 Posted : 26 April 2017 08:42:17(UTC)
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Eddy

Hello Folks

Can someone advise me where I can get a list of training courses which have statutory expiry dates i.e first aid and forklift etc.  Trying to set up HRM system.  Eddy

RayRapp  
#2 Posted : 26 April 2017 09:59:09(UTC)
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RayRapp

Hi Eddy

In my experience very few training course have 'expiry dates' let alone statutory expiry dates. Generally training is driven by industry standards and insurance requirements - for example, FLT training/refresher is 4 years, but I don't think this is set in stone.

Zyggy  
#3 Posted : 26 April 2017 11:35:52(UTC)
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Zyggy

Eddy, I have never come across a definitive list which highlights any statutory intervals & as Ray has already stated a lot depends on your industry standards etc. A number of training providers do put a time limit on their certificates, but in my view it's more about a constant revenue stream than anything to do with competence! I remember going on a "train the trainer" course that did have an "expiry date" & thought that it was ludicrous & it had nothing to do with changes in legislation etc.
Davidfilce  
#4 Posted : 28 April 2017 11:42:56(UTC)
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Davidfilce

I have seen FLT certs covered for 3, 4 and 5 years. Refresher training should be according to Risk Assessment surely. For example i consider Manual Handling Training to have a refresh perid of 3 years for factory staff and 5 years for office staff
Hally  
#5 Posted : 02 May 2017 10:44:59(UTC)
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Hally

Originally Posted by: RayRapp Go to Quoted Post

Hi Eddy

In my experience very few training course have 'expiry dates' let alone statutory expiry dates. Generally training is driven by industry standards and insurance requirements - for example, FLT training/refresher is 4 years, but I don't think this is set in stone.

Ray, not set in stone but most FLT trainers use 3 years hoping they get the refresher training after the 3...

HSE recommend 3-5 years which is what we work to.

thanks 1 user thanked Hally for this useful post.
RayRapp on 02/05/2017(UTC)
Woolf13  
#6 Posted : 02 May 2017 12:28:53(UTC)
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Woolf13

In answer to your question Health and Safety (First Aid) Regulations state:

first aid at work (FAW), issued by a training organisation approved by HSE; or emergency first aid at work (EFAW), certificates are valid for three years.

ACoP L117 Rider-operated Lift Trucks state:

For fork lift trucks there is no specific time period after which you need to provide refresher training or formal assessment. However, you may decide that automatic refresher training or a retest after a set period (for example 3-5 years) is the best way to make sure employees remain competent.

The Management (Health and Safety) at Work Regulations requires every employer to ensure that his employees are provided with adequate health and safety training. As stated earlier by the other users this should be based on the risk assessment of the task/activity/equipment etc.:

  • on their being recruited into the employer's undertaking;

  • on their being exposed to new or increased risks because of –

  1. their being transferred or given a change of responsibilities within the employer's undertaking,

  2. the introduction of new work equipment into or a change respecting work equipment already in use within the employer's undertaking,

  3. (in) the introduction of new technology into the employer's undertaking,or

  4. the introduction of a new system of work into or a change respecting a system of work already in use within the employer's undertaking

Training should be repeated periodically where appropriate e.g. based on your risk assessment.

This information is reiterated throughout legislation e.g. PUWER/LOLER etc.

I hope this helps?

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