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Dawnymcg  
#1 Posted : 02 May 2017 13:46:53(UTC)
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Dawnymcg

Hi all, I'm looking for same advise. I have joined a team in the last few months as their supervisor. Recently I was made aware by one employee that her safety shoes are a size too big. She has had these shoes for over a year now and has never said to anyone previously they do not fit. This has come about as she was conduction work without her safety shoes on have reported it as near miss in line with our reporting process. Previously she has only mentioned that she didn't like wearing them as they didn't suit her. I know we must provide suitable shoes of the correct size but as she has had them over a year now do we have to provide others as she has never mentioned the size issue and we are all aware, due to other uniform issues, that she will use any excuse at any time not to comply. Do I need to order the new ones? Thanks, Dawn.
Mr.Flibble2.0  
#2 Posted : 02 May 2017 14:04:23(UTC)
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Mr.Flibble2.0

Hi Dawn

Does your company have a PPE policy or a process? might be worth a read if you do.

Most companies tend to issue new safety footwear anually (other than defects, wearing out etc).

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Dawnymcg on 02/05/2017(UTC)
Roundtuit  
#3 Posted : 02 May 2017 14:45:24(UTC)
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Roundtuit

PPE must be suitable and FIT for purpose

Safety footwear can be a nightmare to find something that fits correctly - manufacturers, EU sizing, the width of the toe cap insert/overcap. Depending upon manufacturer and style I am either a UK size 10, 10.5 or 11 - when getting my first ever pair I used my known shoe size and ended up with flippers for the next four weeks (kept tripping over my own feet) until the smaller replacement turned up.  

As you have now been made aware the footwear is not suitable for its intended purpose you need to source replacement but get her to try them on and accept them at time of issue. Then further down the line it is purely a disciplinary matter for failing to comply with company rules.

At previous employments safety shoes would be tried on in the afternoon (to allow for natural foot swelling during the day) and only if the employee was happy with the fit would they be issued, otherwise back to the supplier for a different size or style

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Roundtuit  
#4 Posted : 02 May 2017 14:45:24(UTC)
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Roundtuit

PPE must be suitable and FIT for purpose

Safety footwear can be a nightmare to find something that fits correctly - manufacturers, EU sizing, the width of the toe cap insert/overcap. Depending upon manufacturer and style I am either a UK size 10, 10.5 or 11 - when getting my first ever pair I used my known shoe size and ended up with flippers for the next four weeks (kept tripping over my own feet) until the smaller replacement turned up.  

As you have now been made aware the footwear is not suitable for its intended purpose you need to source replacement but get her to try them on and accept them at time of issue. Then further down the line it is purely a disciplinary matter for failing to comply with company rules.

At previous employments safety shoes would be tried on in the afternoon (to allow for natural foot swelling during the day) and only if the employee was happy with the fit would they be issued, otherwise back to the supplier for a different size or style

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Dawnymcg on 02/05/2017(UTC), Dawnymcg on 02/05/2017(UTC)
A Kurdziel  
#5 Posted : 02 May 2017 14:58:18(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

Dawn

Your risk assessment says that the employee should be wearing safety shoes as part of their PPE. The regulations require that the PPE “is capable of fitting the wearer correctly, …(Reg 4 para 3(c)

So the PPE she has currently does not comply with the regulations.

So you have to ask yourself why they were wearing safety shoes that were too big for them, which might indicate that they had not had suitable “Information, instruction and training” which a breach of Regulation 9

And finally, there is requirement under regulation 10 to ensure that the PPE is being used correctly by the employee.

So the legal requirement is not that you just issue some PPE but that you make sure it is the correct PPE and that it being used correctly.

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Dawnymcg on 02/05/2017(UTC)
Dawnymcg  
#6 Posted : 02 May 2017 21:16:37(UTC)
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Dawnymcg

Thank you for the replys. Smaller shoes now ordered.
AAAnsari  
#7 Posted : 03 May 2017 07:33:37(UTC)
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AAAnsari

Hi, Dawn

First Make PPE assessment and Inventory for your job specific

AAAnsari  
#8 Posted : 03 May 2017 07:33:37(UTC)
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AAAnsari

Hi, Dawn

First Make PPE assessment and Inventory for your job specific

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