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In my experience of advising on H&S + fire etc. with regards to such housing blocks for many many years i fould that real competent construction management was almost nil so i ask local retired H&S bod/s to help the residents
building regs are just bits of paper what is wanted is on site management and no matter how good a designer is they cannot ensure that day to day construction practices are to best practice
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Unfortunately agree regulation is the issue - everyone making sure paperwork looks good and no one checking that the sub- contractors, sub,-contractors, sub-contractors, sub-contractor did everything specified INCLUDING re-instating fire compartments.
Just back from a clients site where a new build is not as designed and six companies are pointing the finger at each other - the lad on the tools not being privvy to the 200 page contract saying what they should have done
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Unfortunately agree regulation is the issue - everyone making sure paperwork looks good and no one checking that the sub- contractors, sub,-contractors, sub-contractors, sub-contractor did everything specified INCLUDING re-instating fire compartments.
Just back from a clients site where a new build is not as designed and six companies are pointing the finger at each other - the lad on the tools not being privvy to the 200 page contract saying what they should have done
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The whole issue of building regulations, designer activities and contractor control is extremely complex. Most of what is believed to be mandatory is in fact not much greater than an approved code of practice that permits the designers to follow the code or design an equivalent by a different means, Contractors may then value engineer the specified products to find equivalents from other manufacturers. This can produce some inequities and strange results as can be seen even such simple activities as the setting out of disabled car parking bays in accordance with the relevant BS.
This mix is then complicated by the problems of Building Control not ensuring even the basic requirements of approved documents are met preferring to accept the design decision without question. Not surprising when the designer is paying the BC fee.
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Can I ask retired H&S people who live close to support the Grenfell residents?
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