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lisar  
#1 Posted : 20 July 2017 10:33:18(UTC)
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lisar

I have come across a stand on PPT where the platform raises automatically when the operator gets off it.

It no longer does that and stays down. The operator on his daily check sheets has been putting it down as a defect but "management" are saying there is notthing wrong with it and to still use it.

How serious a defect is this and are the "management" correct in telling the operator to just use it?

Roundtuit  
#2 Posted : 20 July 2017 14:19:50(UTC)
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Roundtuit

and in the event of an accident and the HSE review the operator check sheets and see the same item recorded day after day with no resolution or managerial action?

Why does the standing platform move up when the operator gets off?

It seems to be a designed function but for what purpose?

Roundtuit  
#3 Posted : 20 July 2017 14:19:50(UTC)
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Roundtuit

and in the event of an accident and the HSE review the operator check sheets and see the same item recorded day after day with no resolution or managerial action?

Why does the standing platform move up when the operator gets off?

It seems to be a designed function but for what purpose?

johnwatt  
#4 Posted : 20 July 2017 14:39:44(UTC)
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johnwatt

I'm not exactly clear on what this function is and the purpose of it?

Regulation 25 of the PUWER ACOP is worth a read perhaps?

http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/priced/l22.pdf

JohnW  
#5 Posted : 20 July 2017 15:12:15(UTC)
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JohnW

lisar, check the manufacturer's maual.

What model is it?

Elfin Davy 09  
#6 Posted : 20 July 2017 15:19:40(UTC)
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Elfin Davy 09

lisar - I have come across this type of powered pallet truck from several manufacturers over the years, and from my own personal experience, the only reason the platform folds is to give the operator the option of standing on the platform (ie with it folded down), or to walk with it rather than on it (ie with the platform folded up).  There IS however a small chance that it's a "dead mans brake" (ie if the operator steps off the truck and the platform folds, then the truck stops automatically).  If it's the former (and NOT a safety brake) then it's probably fine to use it, so long as the operator stands on the platform and doesn't use it as a walk-with - because there's then a risk that the platform could crush ankles in a moment of misjudgement.  If it's the latter (and the platform is a brake), then it should be taken out of service immediately.  Hope this helps.

chris42  
#7 Posted : 21 July 2017 08:20:24(UTC)
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chris42

It is correct that the operator on their checks pick this up as something not working, good on them.

However, the interesting opinion will be that of the engineer who does your thorough inspection of the equipment (normally insurance company, but could be other). Have they picked this up as an issue? or has it stopped working since last inspection? If so when is the next inspection due.

When they inspect, if they don’t have an issue then all good, if they do it will be recorded on their report and you will know for the future.

Stuart Smiles  
#8 Posted : 22 July 2017 17:51:17(UTC)
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Stuart Smiles

surely discuss with the manufacturer and/or local service agent (or sales),

perhaps discuss a familiarisation chat with you and operators as to what normal operation is and what is expected, as has been said, it will act in accordance with the manufacturers operation manual, and they should be able to provide checklists for inspection by operators and for thorough inspection too. 

the person doing your examinations, (and those doing servicing), will provide a reference as has been said earlier in the thread, as will prior inspection and service reports, as will what was done to "stop it doing it now", perhaps that is bypassing a safety feature which is going to become a problem for your next inspection? 

there seems to be a lack of reason as to why it does what it does, and as such, the explanation needs to get to the operator as to why it's doing what it's supposed to , (or not). 

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