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Carol B  
#1 Posted : 29 August 2017 14:35:36(UTC)
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Carol B

Our fire assembly point is currently a corner of the car park, however, due to an increase in employee numbers we now need to utilise this area for parking.  To help us determine where the new fire assembly point should be are there any guidelines on the mimimum size of a fire assembly point, e.g. m2 per person?

A Kurdziel  
#2 Posted : 29 August 2017 15:53:47(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

I have never heard of one but is it an issue?

Since it is only for a short period of time you can get a surprising number of people into a relatively small area. In fact a small area has its advantages: easier to control the people there and make sure nobody sneaks back in, easier to communicate within a small area so they will all hear you if you tell them to go back in, move out of the way or you tell them to go home.

How many people are we talking about? We happily fitted about 300 into the area of a tennis court (about 200 m2)  once

Jane Blunt  
#3 Posted : 29 August 2017 19:34:18(UTC)
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Jane Blunt

You don't indicate how many people, so it is difficult to say, but as the previous response indicates you can get a lot of people in a very small space.

I would look at the wider picture.

They must be able to turn their back on the fire, wherever it is, and walk away from it, so don't locate it anywhere that they could get trapped.

Try to avoid having them assemble where they will get in the way of the emergency vehicles. Being run over by a fire engine is embarrassing.

Choose an area that is not too far away from the building(s), otherwise you might have a mutiny. In the event of a real fire they may need to be moved further away, so have a more distant spot in mind for this eventuality. I once had to evacuate around 1000 people to a distance in excess of 300 m from a building that was in danger of blowing up - not easy, but we did it.

Roundtuit  
#4 Posted : 29 August 2017 19:43:12(UTC)
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Roundtuit

You have not described the site (size, numbers) - at some locations we placed the assembly point to the left or right of the main entrance on the main public highway (opposite side to main access route for Emergency Vehivcles)

Roundtuit  
#5 Posted : 29 August 2017 19:43:12(UTC)
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Roundtuit

You have not described the site (size, numbers) - at some locations we placed the assembly point to the left or right of the main entrance on the main public highway (opposite side to main access route for Emergency Vehivcles)

Carol B  
#6 Posted : 30 August 2017 09:23:22(UTC)
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Carol B

We currently have 7 generously sized car parking spaces at the fire assembly point, one for each department.  We were thinking of painting boxes within the car park (outside of the parking spaces) for the new assembly points, so I was looking for some guideline sizes, if they aren't any, we will probably just go with a car park sized space for each department

A Kurdziel  
#7 Posted : 30 August 2017 09:31:00(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

I like the idea of each department having their own separate assembly zone within the larger fire assembly point.  Are people allowed to talk to people in other departments when there is a firedrill or is that not allowed?

PS what would you do if  the carpark areas had cars in them?

Carol B  
#8 Posted : 30 August 2017 09:42:45(UTC)
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Carol B

We ask for quiet while we do the roll call, but once we are happy everyone is accounted for they are free to move about a bit within the area, but still need to keep the noise level down in order to hear instructions.  I know a lot of people aren't fans of roll calls, but it works for us, due to the size of our buildings and numerous rooms which may or may not have people in at any time a sweep system isn't practical.

As we need the extra parking spaces, we need to move the assembly point out of the allocated parking spaces and are looking at having marked assembly points in the car park roadway (within the car park area, but outside of the parking bays), so there won't be an issue with cars parking in the assembly area (which we do sometimes get now)

Ron Hunter  
#9 Posted : 30 August 2017 10:17:18(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

You have the relative luxury of your own (employer's) car park as an assembly point. Part of your emergency response should include preventing movement in or out WHILST maintaining access for emergency services.

The lane space between parked cars should suffice?

Easy answer is to have a drill and see how it goes!

kmason83  
#10 Posted : 30 August 2017 11:12:42(UTC)
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kmason83

You need to concentrate on hazards, sfae distance from the premises taking into cosidertaion emergancy services access, location of any expolisive or large amounts of combustables, location of passing traffic, location of site traffic entrance and exit. You also need to factor access for mobilty impaired. the actual size of your evac point will flow from there. 

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