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Hi,
I am looking for advice on whether swimming "wetsuits" are classed as PPE or not. I currently have 22 swim teachers who teach most of their lessons from the pool bank. Occasionally they may have to spend an hour in the pool when the class is at a certain level. This could be up to 3 hours per day. The temperature of the water is 27C and the room is 22 C. They have complained of being cold and wet when they exit the pool and some have purchased their own wetsuits to keep warm. Has anyone had a similar experience and if so how did you solve it. I cant seem to see anything standard wise on this. I would appreciate some advice on the matter other than the do a Risk Assessment statement.
Many thanks, Rsherl01
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Well my take on it would be that the swim teachers have identified a hazard of getting cold when in the water for so long and they have provided a suitable control measure. #
So in my mind the wet suit is PPE especially as they do try and eliminate the problem by remaining on the bank as much as they can but going in the water at times is unavoidable.
I would revisit your risk assessment, go through the hieracy of control etc.. to check it is the last resort as PPE always should be but chances are they have found the fix and I would classs it as PPE. Hope that helps,
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Wetsuits keep you warm in the water. The teachers say they get cold when the get out of the water. How about providing them with towelling robes?
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Ian, that then opens up the same question - would towelling robes then be classed as PPE? :-)
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The pool temperature is significantly lower than body temperature. Prolongued exposure will lead to lowering of the core body temperature especially if they are not constantly active whilst in the water and if exposed for long enough would eventually lead to hypothermia and death.
A wet suit or even a dry suit sounds like a sensible precaution and I would consider it to be PPE in this case.
Edited by user 12 September 2017 16:02:42(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Adams29600  The pool temperature is significantly lower than body temperature. Prolongued exposure will lead to lowering of the core body temperature especially if they are not constantly active whilst in the water and if exposed for long enough would eventually lead to hypothermia and death.
A wet suit or even a dry suit sounds like a sensible precaution and I would consider it to be PPE in this case.
A wetsuit in this case may or may not be PPE, but I don't believe a healthy adult will suffer from hypothermia due to an hour in 27C water.
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I did say if they are exposed for long enough. I know that would be unlikely, but being subject to it for 3 X 1 hours a day can't be good for you. If the body is not fully recovered before the next immersion, the effects will be cumulative. It is reasonable to assume the instructors are physically fit, but everyone has off days, the odd dose of man flu etc. and most of us struggle through it and carry on working even though we may be physically below par on those days.
Duration of exposure without adverse effects is obviously dependant on the fitness of the person, what they are doing and the differential between body temperature and the water temperature. If the instructor is swimming with the students, use of muscles will generate heat in the body and help to maintain the core temperature. If they are not active, the water temperature will draw the body temperature down until they are equalised if no preventive action is taken. Hypothermia is reduced body temperature that occurs when the body dissipates more heat than it absorbs so placing the body in water significantly below its core temperature will cause hypothermia in due course.
It is simply a question of having appropriate controls in place, one of which may be a wetsuit. A wetsuit holds a layer of water against the skin and insulates it thereby allowing the body to warm up that layer of water which then insulates the swimmer against the temperature differential between them and their environment so I would define it as PPE. Other controls, of course could be looking at why the instructor has to be in the water and what they are physically doing whilst they are there.
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These temperatures are absoloutely tropical. Honestly, if you can't manage this, then I would suggest you don't become a swim teacher. Are we seriously building a society where people can't manage this kind of exposure because they will be come a bit cold? 27 degree water in a 22 degree ambient temperature environment is like a beach holiday every day. What about the exposed parts of hands and feet when they become all wrinkled and the skin becomes more sensitive - a wetsuit won't solve that. Thought needs to be put into how much time they are spending in the water, and whether they might need to change a bit more, and rest periods. They have more chance of forming blisters than hypothermia - probably more chance of hyperthermia.
A wetsuit in that environment would become uncomfortable - it's humid. I've surfed quite a lot for hours on end - if the water was at that temperature I wouldn't bother wearing a wetsuit. You towel off afterwards appopriately and warm up that way.
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