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David Bannister  
#1 Posted : 26 January 2018 10:52:15(UTC)
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David Bannister

There are frequent posts on these forums regarding the provision of advice to charities and other similar enterprises, usually seeking advice on whether liabilities may ensue when no professional fee is charged.

Comments range from supportive (wonderful philanthropy), via "beware of the HSE/courts" to opposing points of view (devaluing our profession).

I have today given a family member the benefit of my expertise and have in the past delivered simple advice and support to a local organisation of which I am an active member, neither of which involved any professional fees. However, if that organisation or any other similar ones wanted more than a simple service I would be inclined to do this subject to my usual trading conditions as a consultant.

What do others think? Should we be giving away our expertise or should we be sharing goodwill? Where do we draw the line? Some solicitors will do pro bono work - should we?

Hsquared14  
#2 Posted : 26 January 2018 10:58:17(UTC)
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Hsquared14

I think we should do pro bono work to counter all the fakery and H&S myths that are circulating if for no other reason.

thanks 2 users thanked Hsquared14 for this useful post.
paul.skyrme on 26/01/2018(UTC), Thomo on 29/01/2018(UTC)
paul.skyrme  
#3 Posted : 26 January 2018 11:12:04(UTC)
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paul.skyrme

I do as much Pro Bono work as I can, really what we do in here is really Pro Bono work, along with LinkedIn, Facebook, and forums, as well as physical in person.

I don't do it for profit making orgaisations, nor public sector, except to challenge incorrect, stupid or downright dangerous advice or behaviour.

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A Kurdziel  
#4 Posted : 26 January 2018 11:44:02(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

It depends on what you mean. Dropping a piece of advice or doing something for a local charity or church is no big deal in my opinion. Obviously I would not do free stuff for commercial operations as to do it right would take up a significant part of my time and time as they say is money.

The profession should be open: the alternative is becoming all secretive and masonic with secret shakes before we can divulge the mysteries of risk assessment. Not an attractive prospect.  

Ian Bell2  
#5 Posted : 26 January 2018 11:53:25(UTC)
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Ian Bell2

I'm on the committee of my local cricket club. A paid member of the club. Any h&S decisions are approved/agreed by the club committee and hence consequences covered by the club insurance policies etc. No personal liability. No charges made for my advice to the club. We also have ECB standards & guidance to follow/consider.
RayRapp  
#6 Posted : 26 January 2018 11:54:32(UTC)
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RayRapp

David

I have provided plenty of free advice in some shape or form over the years - happy to oblige. Mostly to friends and family I might add, but occasionally helping a 'good cause' like my golf club.

Whether we as h&s practitioners should be providing freebies is a moot point. Am I doing someone out of a job? Definitely not.   

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