Nothing to help you Aaron but I'd like to see if anything turns up to assist you. Sounds like serious underestimate of load calculations - remember that the tracks are going to add significant slip resistance to drag so it isn't just just a straightforward weighting calculation. Also any load shift under tension will shock load the rig... I am thinking massive margins for the safety factors. Lets see who turns up as our expert.... Can you expand on the scenario - enviroment, incline machine size etc?

Hi,

For starters I would think that the specific excavator instruction manual or user guide is needed. 

Cheers

Andy

Very happy for you to PM me to discuss. 

Certain clients will require you to have a recovery plan and a set of procedures for removal of stricken plant in order to maintain operations;  for instance rail/aviation.

There are a couple of ways to do this, however I would urge caution.  Recovery of plant (i.e moving plant that will not start) is a specialist activity.  The skills involved are specialist and as such there are organizations that can assist the contractor in this situation. 

With regards to a plan – once you have entered into contract with an organization to provide the service on emergency call out, they provide a generic plan which includes call out numbers, generic methodology and assessment.  The specifics of the assessment are completed once on site when the risks can be considered at point of work. 

Thanks for the comments - speaking for myself and not the OP, I fully respect the advice above... but would like to know 'what good looks like' so that I can better understand these emergency call out contracts. In my case I am not trying to become, but trying to understand.

Seeing and sharing RA and SSW helps me to determine who knows what they are talking about. It certainly does not mean I am going into the marketplace as the new plant recovery Messiah!

Thanks Andy - great find for me, helps me on my way towards understanding... things like this also enable more 'self help' and applying meaningful search criteria. Much appreciated to the OP and respondents.

Thank you both for you guidance.  In respect to my situation the PC has asked that we have the equipment ready and available on site in the event of it occuring.  For my company we have an appointed person, lift supervisors and slingers available so we can properly plan the lift.  With the correct paperwork in place would this not suffice?  Or is there specific training that would be required.

Thanks

Originally Posted by: Charlie Brown

This is what I used to do in the plant hire game. If people don't know what they are doing they can do serious damage to both people and equipment. We had a customer once did £5k worth of damage to an excavator slew motor by trying to drag it around by the arm.

My recovery plan was always "In case of breakdown do not try to move the machine, call our technical services department" and we would then send an engineer and if they couldn't fix the problem we would send for a recovery team. And, Sweep is correct in that they would supply their own RAMS upon request.

Originally Posted by: Sweep

Very happy for you to PM me to discuss. 

Certain clients will require you to have a recovery plan and a set of procedures for removal of stricken plant in order to maintain operations;  for instance rail/aviation.

There are a couple of ways to do this, however I would urge caution.  Recovery of plant (i.e moving plant that will not start) is a specialist activity.  The skills involved are specialist and as such there are organizations that can assist the contractor in this situation. 

With regards to a plan – once you have entered into contract with an organization to provide the service on emergency call out, they provide a generic plan which includes call out numbers, generic methodology and assessment.  The specifics of the assessment are completed once on site when the risks can be considered at point of work. 

Aaron

The question for anyone who thinks that it's appropriate to have any necessary equipment already on site is "how much do you want to pay?"

There are so many potential failure modes that it would be very difficult to second guess what recovery equipment, personnel etc may be required.

Some business critical scenarios would justify having belt and braces available just in case. Most won't.