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SBH  
#1 Posted : 27 February 2018 12:54:16(UTC)
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SBH

I have my own safety consultancy business which is expanding and I am fully insured, professional indemnity and public liability. I intend to register the company but am not sure about going limited. It appears to bting lots of additionals with it. What do other members do?

SBH

Ian Bell2  
#2 Posted : 27 February 2018 13:07:33(UTC)
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Ian Bell2

It's easy. Go on to Companies House website. Takes about 30mins to set up & register a company. They then send you the paper work to confirm. You need a unique name for your company.
SBH  
#3 Posted : 27 February 2018 13:22:23(UTC)
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SBH

Misunderstanding I think. Do any members go limited company when they have their own consultancy.

SBH

Roundtuit  
#4 Posted : 27 February 2018 13:56:33(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Limited keeps liabilities with the business rather than the individual

https://www.gov.uk/limited-company-formation

As an individual you could end up on the wrong end of a law suit with personal assetts in the baliffs sights

Roundtuit  
#5 Posted : 27 February 2018 13:56:33(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Limited keeps liabilities with the business rather than the individual

https://www.gov.uk/limited-company-formation

As an individual you could end up on the wrong end of a law suit with personal assetts in the baliffs sights

Zyggy  
#6 Posted : 27 February 2018 14:26:35(UTC)
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Zyggy

When I set up my own consultancy I spoke to an established consultant (thanks again David) & took advice from my Bank's Business Adviser.

Rightly or wrongly for the valid reasons already given, I decided to go for sole trader status along with the necessary PL & PI Insurances rather than a Limited Co.

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David Bannister on 27/02/2018(UTC)
Centurion  
#7 Posted : 27 February 2018 14:38:35(UTC)
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Centurion

Hi,

Just somethings that I gradually found out when I had a Limited Company:-

With a Limited Company the annual accounting period is from the date that you start it i.e. if you start in October then it is October to October and so on.

You must have a set of accounts which then have to be copied and sent online to Companies House in the format that they require.

With a Limited Company you are regarded as an employee of it even if it bears your name.

You will need to confirm with your Accountant how you should pay yourself and how you deal with profits – dividends. 

Only have an Accountant who is sensible – not one that tempts you with excessive tax breaks – better to pay more tax in the long run as you are the one who will be held accountable by the Tax Man and not them. 

Cheers

Andy   

David Bannister  
#8 Posted : 27 February 2018 15:18:59(UTC)
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David Bannister

I chose to set up as a Ltd Co after my first year's trading for two reasons. Firstly as I felt that the clients I wanted to engage with would respond better to a bona fide Company (I suspect I was correct) and secondly because the tax regime at that time favoured income at the taxable threshold plus dividends. I also decided to register for VAT as a marketing aid.

It's easy to set up your own company whenever you want and it's also possible to revert to sole trader status should you wish.

My accountant has prepared my accounts and submitted my annual returns in return for his acceptable fee.

However, the tax situation is now different. I recommend tax avoidance as a sound business strategy, never tax evasion. Your accountant should be able to advise.

Good luck whichever route you choose.

Hsquared14  
#9 Posted : 28 February 2018 11:51:50(UTC)
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Hsquared14

You have more legal protection as a limited company and I would certainly recommend going down that route.  Being VAT registered on a flat rate scheme can also be an advantage as you pay less VAT than you would normally but the rules on that have changed recently so you would need to check up on the HMRC website. 

You do need an accountant who specialises in micro-businesses, my first accountant had dilusions of grandeur and cost me loads of money, my second account saved me twice as much money as I had to pay him each year.   The difference was that the second one understood micro-business and helped me to plan my tax affairs much better. 

Many big companies only want to deal with Limited companies because of the liability question.   If anything goes wrong and you are a sole trader even with good insurance you can end up with a very big personal bill which could put you into personal bankruptcy.  I recommend £3million minimum on Public Liability and the same for Professional Indemnity,   brokers will recommend a figure based on your annual turnover but that is likely to leave you underinsured.  Being a limited company cushions you as an individual from those sorts of issues.  Make sure you have a second signatory or second nominated director who can take over essential paperwork if you are out of action.   None of us know what might happen to us especially if driving so you need that back up of having a second person who can pay your VAT bill.   A power of attourney is also a good move if you are the sole director of a company.  

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Charlie Brown on 28/02/2018(UTC)
andybz  
#10 Posted : 28 February 2018 19:34:27(UTC)
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andybz

Only go limited if your customers require it or if you think you will get more customers as a result.  Being limited creates a lot more admin work and expense.  My accountant fees went up 3 or 4 times when I changed to limited and the amount of post received by a similar ratio.

The protection provided by Limited status will be negligible for you.  It protects you personally against financial liabilities, but as a consultant you really should not generate many.  If you mess up technically being Limited will not protect you personally as anyone with a claim will pursue you for damages if they think the company will not pay up.  That is where your insurance kicks in.

People will invariably tell you that being Limited will allow you to avoid a lot of tax.  That has not been the case for many years, and even less now. 

Bigmac1  
#11 Posted : 28 February 2018 20:48:35(UTC)
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Bigmac1

Your expanding, gaining more business and you intend to register?????

Your supposed to register and then work not the other way round.

Whats your business plan? make a £million and then tell HMRC, if you dont then not bother lol 

SBH  
#12 Posted : 01 March 2018 11:25:45(UTC)
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SBH

Originally Posted by: Bigmac1 Go to Quoted Post

Your expanding, gaining more business and you intend to register?????

Your supposed to register and then work not the other way round.

Whats your business plan? make a £million and then tell HMRC, if you dont then not bother lol 

I was intending to register with companies house as a limited company but needed advice on the benefits / pitfalls from colleagues. I wont bother.
SpaceNinja  
#13 Posted : 01 March 2018 15:11:40(UTC)
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SpaceNinja

Originally Posted by: Bigmac1 Go to Quoted Post

Your expanding, gaining more business and you intend to register?????

Your supposed to register and then work not the other way round.

Whats your business plan? make a £million and then tell HMRC, if you dont then not bother lol 

I think you've got the wrong end of the stick - SBH is talking about the decision to stay as a sole trader or go Limited - both are completely normal and legit.

I'd recommend talking to an accountant - there does come a point where tax savings of being Limited offset any accountant's cost, they'll be able to let you know if you've hit that point. I went Limited a while back - it's a bit different from being a sole trader, but not too complicated. It also adds a bit more "legitimacy" to some clients who may be used to dealing with larger companies and you would stand out as a sole trader.

Bigmac1  
#14 Posted : 01 March 2018 19:53:17(UTC)
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Bigmac1

I apologise, I though he wasnt any lol sorry SBH

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