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Does a sub-contractor who has their own site cabin have to provide a H&S at Law Poster or is it the Principal Contractors responsibility? I personally think the subby should provide one too because it details who their H&S rep/advisor is.
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As long as their employees have access to one then I guess it will be okay. For the sake of £10 it might be worth putting one up. How long will they be working on site? I tend not to get overly concerned about things like this. As long as employees are provided with adequate information regarding the employers and employees responsibilities then that's fine (in my opinion). Lets face it..... no one will read it. We have one at our workplace, located at the only access/egress point and I've never seen anyone read it. I get it's a legal requirement but I'd rather concentrate on real risk.
Originally Posted by: Boden31904 
Does a sub-contractor who has their own site cabin have to provide a H&S at Law Poster or is it the Principal Contractors responsibility? I personally think the subby should provide one too because it details who their H&S rep/advisor is.
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You don’t have to display it if you issue each and every employee with the free downloadable HSE leaflet (from HSE web site). But as above £10 not worth the hassle, just get one, they last for years.
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I would display - as others have said they are cheap enough and not only that the sub-contractor not the main contractor is the employer here so it is their duty. I would also point out that not having one or not filling in the boxes at the bottom is easy pickings for an over zealous HSE Inspector who needs to make up their Fee for Intervention quota. And before anyone protests that such a thing would never happen just hang on a minute while I wipe the tears of laughter from my cynical eyes and look up the details of the clients I visited in the last few years who are smarting after the FFI and a fine!!
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Whilst you're correct in saying that an over-zealous HSE inspector might proceed along the FFI route for not having a poster (after all, they tend to take the FFI option for just about everything these days !), they couldn't take action for not completing the bottom boxes, as this is voluntary. Below is from the HSE's website:
"The poster outlines British health and safety laws and includes a straightforward list that tells workers what they and their employers need to do. You can also add details of any employee safety representatives or health and safety contacts if you wish to do so".
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No, no Elfin Davey - I didn't explain myself properly, one client got an FFI for not completing the boxes (regardless of what the guidance says they got the bill!!!) and another got fined for only having the poster displayed in one of two locations. Sorry should have been more explanatory but wanted to keep the post short!! It was these events that prompted me to be called in for advice.
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Hsquared14
I don't doubt you for a moment. In fact, whilst I'd love to say I'm surprised that an inspector would instigate FFI for such trivial matters (although I suppose they would argue that not displaying a poster where it should be displayed is a "material breach"), I have to say that I'm not unfortunately (which in itself is a sad reflection on the "breakdown" of relationships with the HSE that many are experiencing since FFI came into effect).
That said, I'd have still challenged the "unfilled boxes" invoice, because I still maintain that filling in the boxes isn't necessary unless you choose to do so.
The good thing is it's Friday ! :-)
Edited by user 09 March 2018 12:45:10(UTC)
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The Regulations call on the HSE to decide on the format of any poster. If you go onto the HSE website under FAQ's for the poster, it clearly states that completing the boxes is optional & is not a legal requirement - can't get any clearer than that!
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Hi all,
During an audit at a previous employer I was told by an external auditor that we needed to complete the boxes at the bottom of the poster. I told him he was wrong as this no longer compulsory. He did come back to me having checked up that this was indeed now the case.
Regarding the original post. Buy the poster for such a small amount of money.
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