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Our archaeology department want to create “burned remains” for the students to look at and they need to either create a bonfire and burn them in that or burn them in garden incinerator ( i.e. a bin with a chimney) and I am trying to establish what rules apply. The material will consist of wood, cloth, (animal) bones and bits of metal.
As far as I can see although we are in a no smoke area we can burn garden waste, but not other types of waste as a means of disposal. We are not in the business of disposing of this material; we merely want to char it. So can we burn this in a carpark let’s say?
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No idea what the official environmental answer is... can't you say it for educational purposes and research?
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The law applies to burning waste to get rid of it, where you are generally not supposed to without a permit, even domestic waste in the garden. The fines can be in the 10s of thousands depending on what you are burning.
However, it is worth thinking about the definition of waste, which is anything you discard, intend to discard or are required to discard.
If you are not intending to incinerate just char, then I would say you are not getting rid of waste as you will still have (most of it), you are just heat treating it.
There are also laws about emissions of dark smoke, but by the time someone has got their Ringelmann chart out, you will have finished.
I’m not sure I would want to do this on a tarmac surface even in one of those garden incinerators (you know they are galvanised don’t you! - just saying). I wouldn’t do it on a concrete surface either as it retains moisture and tends to pop if heated (grass will eventually grow back).
This is such an odd one if you really wanted to be 100% sure contact the EA, they are likely to be realistic. However, I don’t think there is a problem personally, make sure your wood has not been treated. It is a bit of an odd one as even having a garden bonfire which is not illegal, but you can’t put paper and card etc on them (yeh right, that’s how you get them started), just excess twigs and leaves which they would prefer you to compost.
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What a fantastic 'problem' to have. Not something you come across every day. I agree with Chris- I don't think you are actually burning waste. But the t's need dotting and the I's crossing- or something like that. It is wise to contact the EA just for their take on it.
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Not sure it's worth contacting the EA as they will just say it's of aminor issue (in the grand scale of things). I would approach your local authority - they'll be more inclined to assist as if there was any action (pollution/smoke nuisance complaints) it'll be them who would deal with it. Speak with their environmental department.
Personally I think this is of such a minor issue that they'll let you get on with it. Only I would ensure that any fire precaustions are applied and all waste is disposed of correctly.
Just feel that going to the EA is a bit of an over-reaction for what is a minor "experiment" of charring materials to then be analysised and then disposed of.
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Originally Posted by: DaveBridle  Not sure it's worth contacting the EA as they will just say it's of aminor issue (in the grand scale of things). I would approach your local authority - they'll be more inclined to assist as if there was any action (pollution/smoke nuisance complaints) it'll be them who would deal with it. Speak with their environmental department.
Personally I think this is of such a minor issue that they'll let you get on with it. Only I would ensure that any fire precaustions are applied and all waste is disposed of correctly.
Just feel that going to the EA is a bit of an over-reaction for what is a minor "experiment" of charring materials to then be analysised and then disposed of.
Basically my thoughts. Previously we used to do this on a remote location out on the moors and nobody cared but now we are going to be doing this in an urban area and I was wondering what the neighbours might say and what the reaction for the Local Council might be.
As said it will be an annual thing (probably) and we are not disposing of anything, just creating burned remains. The area is (as far as I can tell - the official map is a bit rubbish) a smokeless zone which might bring out the local inspectors but unless we were to do it every day all I suspect that they would not get involved but I might give them a ring. Cheers for the responses.
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You describe the residue as "burnt remains" which is what I usually am left with after a family barbeque & as far as I am aware I don't need a licence for that!
I know it sounds like a flippant remark, but it's not meant to be, just trying to get things into perspective!
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I thought I would chip in to this one; I am an Environmental Health Officer.
"Smoke control zones are areas where you can’t emit smoke from a chimney unless you’re burning an authorised fuel or using ‘exempt appliances’, for example burners or stoves. In a smoke control area you can only burn fuel on the list of authorised fuels, or any of the following ‘smokeless’ fuels: anthracite, semi-anthracite, gas, low volatile steam coal".
Anything which creates dark smoke is a strict offence under the Clean Air Act 1993 and something which Councils take very seriosuly. As you are a commercial business this Act applies. Burning (igniting material) is deemed to a method of disposing and therefore not allowed.
However most Councils will apply discretion and considering what your intentions are, and that there is no malice or intent to harm the environment or create nuisance then there should be no enforcement action required. Always best to have that conversation with your local Environmental Health department.
Good luck, sounds interesting!
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