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An employee has raised an issue with their employer that they feel the employer is failing in their duty under HSW 1974 to protect them from co-workers who come to work with a cold - and claims they keep getting sick because of it (trying to defend their ever increasing sickness absence).
Employee is office based.
Employer has issued info and guidance (good hand hygiene, cleaning workstations, catch it/bin it policy, provision of bins etc.)
Anyone any experience of handling this situation? Any advice?
Edited by user 07 May 2018 11:19:35(UTC)
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Hi. I'd suggest that this would be wholly impossible to manage and well outwith an employers set of responsibilities. How can they prove they've contracted the cold from a colleague and not a family member, fellow bus passenger, person behind them in the queue at the shops? Agree it looks like a desperate ploy to defend their absence.
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What a load of baloney. For the majority of the normal population a common cold is not a significant risk. Neither is the cause under the control of the employer, entirely unresonable to stop people coming to work because they have a cold and risk spreading it to others. Both an employer has to maintain a profitable business and other people need to come to work for their salary/contract reasons.
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Across many employments I have often seen within the T&C's of employment that employees with communicable diseases (albeit without clear list of diseases) should refrain from attending work. Unfortunately we have a society which drives presenteeism and senior management who provide a poor example in the work place - one senior manager lurched in to work with a "cold" for two days after a foreign business trip before spending 10 days bed ridden and in doing so condemned half the office to the same fate. To this day we still don't know what form of "virus" it was that made him and the others ill.
As Ian eluded there are some in the general population with suppressed immunity for whom even common colds can be quite debilitating - whilst appreciating on the face of your initial post this sounds like an attempt to divert an absence issue has the employees overall general health been verified e.g. are they on / have they started a course of medication with immuno-supressant side effects?
Unless there are very exceptional circumstances it sounds like appropriate measures for the general population are in place.
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Across many employments I have often seen within the T&C's of employment that employees with communicable diseases (albeit without clear list of diseases) should refrain from attending work. Unfortunately we have a society which drives presenteeism and senior management who provide a poor example in the work place - one senior manager lurched in to work with a "cold" for two days after a foreign business trip before spending 10 days bed ridden and in doing so condemned half the office to the same fate. To this day we still don't know what form of "virus" it was that made him and the others ill.
As Ian eluded there are some in the general population with suppressed immunity for whom even common colds can be quite debilitating - whilst appreciating on the face of your initial post this sounds like an attempt to divert an absence issue has the employees overall general health been verified e.g. are they on / have they started a course of medication with immuno-supressant side effects?
Unless there are very exceptional circumstances it sounds like appropriate measures for the general population are in place.
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Ok this is worse than bunkum but before I go off and list various words to describe it let’s look at the issue. Firstly the Health and Safety at Work Act only deals with risks and hazards arising out of work, not something that exists in the community at large. So if you are in the medical sector there is a duty to protect staff from infection from patients as that is arising out of work, but no duty if the risk comes from sitting next to someone on the daily commute. The COSHH guidance and ACoP are clear on this. I suppose that you could stretch the requirements of the Health and Safety at Work Act to mean there is a duty of care but the Act is enforceable by the HSE and they decide what they go for as a matter of public policy. I suppose you colleague could take the HSE to court and ask for judicial review but I think he would be wasting his money. This is not a Health and Safety issue.
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I totally agree with A Kurdziel - this is a social issue not a health and safety issue. This person is trying their luck with regards to a poor sickness absence record by blaming their employer and playing the H&S card. Hand this person back to HR for follow up of their absence record.
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There is no way a case (I use that word loosely) for office colds would stand up in any tribunal, federation or employee union - there are just too many ways of catching it considering the "common cold" is common everywhere, hence the name. It would be very hard to contest that it was your company responsible for you getting ill. There is also no clinical way of proving it either. As A Kurdziel said HASAWA relates to hazards and injuries arising from work - I highly doubt you would catch a cold from doing office work (unless you're just trying to get out of it in the first place!!)
Edited by user 08 May 2018 11:49:32(UTC)
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