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baal  
#1 Posted : 07 June 2018 20:42:54(UTC)
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baal

Hi All, After a bit of advice. Just over a year ago I was promoted to the Board of Directors as H&S Director, but without the benefits offered to the other board members. Following a recent H&S Award win, I was approached by another organisation with a role at the same level, but better package. Do I take their offer or stay where I am? I know it will eventually start to grate knowing I am not on a level playing field. Your thoughts please Thank you in advance
Roundtuit  
#2 Posted : 07 June 2018 20:53:52(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Is the grass actually greener or does it just look that way from your side of the fence? Do your homework on the potential new employer.

Given the apparent resentment at a lack of comparable package with other board members sounds like your opportunity to depart and a decision already made

Roundtuit  
#3 Posted : 07 June 2018 20:53:52(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Is the grass actually greener or does it just look that way from your side of the fence? Do your homework on the potential new employer.

Given the apparent resentment at a lack of comparable package with other board members sounds like your opportunity to depart and a decision already made

SNS  
#4 Posted : 07 June 2018 22:12:11(UTC)
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SNS

Even if the grass is greener it will still need cutting.

achrn  
#5 Posted : 08 June 2018 08:09:35(UTC)
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achrn

Is there scope to use the approach to get an enhanced package where you are?  Let it be known you're being head-hunted...?

fairlieg  
#6 Posted : 08 June 2018 08:14:15(UTC)
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fairlieg

Originally Posted by: achrn Go to Quoted Post

Is there scope to use the approach to get an enhanced package where you are?  Let it be known you're being head-hunted...?

If you weren't worth it to them yesterday why are suddenly worth if today?  If you were valued you would be valued the same as everyone else in my opinion.

I would ask about the discrepancy before mentioning the offer (to see how they value what I add to the organisation) and if I got strung a line then make a move

Edited by user 08 June 2018 08:16:03(UTC)  | Reason: gnilleps

Elfin Davy 09  
#7 Posted : 08 June 2018 08:39:40(UTC)
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Elfin Davy 09

Baal

Please don't take this the wrong way, but it seems like your current company took advantage of you when they promoted you to H&S Director.  They apear to have wanted someone to take responsibility (..or to blame !) without the rewards that should have gone with the position.  That said, you accepted, so you must have had your reasons for doing so...

You say you've recently won an award, and this award has obviously alerted others to your ability.  This puts you in a good bargaining position.  As has already been mentioned, do your homework on the organisation offering you the new role, and if you're happy that you're going to be treated with a bit more respect than you currently are, use it to your advantage.  With your new offer in your pocket, approach your current company and ask why you're not getting the same package as other directors.  If they "waffle" and/or still won't budge (and you're comfortable with leaving them), then go.  I'm sure (if they really value you) that they'll come back to you with a "proper" offer to stay, but then the decision is in your hands (...personally I would still go, but only you can decide whether or not the new package is worth staying for).

However, it's very true that the grass isn't always greener, so have a good think about it first.

Roundtuit  
#8 Posted : 08 June 2018 11:37:25(UTC)
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Roundtuit

For your own sanity you cannot discuss this offer with your current employer - if they make a counter offer this would reinforce how much they have been taking advantage. Accepting this will only niggle at the back of your mind and you will end up leaving eventually and have missed the opportunity.

If you find that the grass is the same colour but are happy where you are have a chat about a recognition (of the award) enhancement.

Roundtuit  
#9 Posted : 08 June 2018 11:37:25(UTC)
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Roundtuit

For your own sanity you cannot discuss this offer with your current employer - if they make a counter offer this would reinforce how much they have been taking advantage. Accepting this will only niggle at the back of your mind and you will end up leaving eventually and have missed the opportunity.

If you find that the grass is the same colour but are happy where you are have a chat about a recognition (of the award) enhancement.

Elfin Davy 09  
#10 Posted : 08 June 2018 13:00:38(UTC)
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Elfin Davy 09

Roundtuit

Sorry, just to clarify, I wasn't advocating that he (or she) discusses the offer with his/her current employers, rather that the person concerned approaches them to ask why he/she isn't on the same package as other directors (with nothing to lose - if willing to leave - as they have another offer tucked away that the company don't know about). 

This could then go one of two ways, either they could say "that's the way it is, live with it", or they could maybe think "yes, you're right, let's have another look at this".  If it's the former, hand in the resignation letter (and it's then when they're likely to make another offer, and it's then up to the original poster whether or not they're happy to stay given the change of heart). 

If it's the latter (and the revised terms are aceptable), then all's well that ends well.  Either way, the current employers need never know about the offer that prompted the conversation...

Edited by user 08 June 2018 13:07:00(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

achrn  
#11 Posted : 08 June 2018 19:41:55(UTC)
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achrn

Originally Posted by: fairlieg Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: achrn Go to Quoted Post

Is there scope to use the approach to get an enhanced package where you are?  Let it be known you're being head-hunted...?

If you weren't worth it to them yesterday why are suddenly worth if today?  If you were valued you would be valued the same as everyone else in my opinion.

Because in a free market economy everything (including the working time of people) is worth what someone will pay for it, no more and no less.  If another company now is demonstrably willing to pay more for the OP's working hours, the value of those hours is demonmstrably higher than it was yesterday.

Yesterday the company thought the OP's input was worth one sum, the OP can now (if they choose) demonstrate that another company values their input more highly than that.  That makes it worth more, in the economic structure in which we all (I think) operate, even if you don't like the moral / philosophical implications of that.

Charlie Brown  
#12 Posted : 11 June 2018 19:29:46(UTC)
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Charlie Brown

Sorry, I can't answer for you but if I personally was in your position I would do a bit of research into what other companies are paying (obviously you know what the company who approached you is willing to pay but also look at sites like Glassdoor) then approach your board and ask them why they would not value your position in the same way. It may well be that they think 1 year in the Director role is insufficient to assess your ultimate value to the company (some employers will be looking for 3 to 5 years experience) and while gaining a particular award might be a nice thing, they may not be wholly crediting you with the success. In any case, be inquiring but not demanding if that makes sense? but take a well researched and mapped case to them and see how they react. Sometimes it is better to wait and gain experience than to chase the money (spoken from bitter experience) If at the end of it all you decide to jump ship then I wish you well.

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