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Our employees who drive refuse collection vehicles operate and view an in cab BARTEC system (a fancy satnav). Am I right in saying that because it is a system within a vehicle the DSE Regs dont apply? Thanks
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Good question, but..... what is the chain of logic on which you base the belief that the DSE Regs don't apply because the interfaces of gadgets within a vehicle are more complex? If you read the guidance associated with the DSE Regs, and a well-rsearched guide to applied ergonomics such as that of Pheasant and Haslegrave, you can see ways for explaining how the Regs offer safeguards of particular value in a moving vehicle that presents hazards not only to drivers but also to many other raod users.
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Thanks for your reply, I'll do a bit more digging and look up the article you recommend...
I've had a look at the L26 Working with Display Screen Equipment document on the HSE website and on page 11 it states about the application of the regs: Application
(4) Nothing in these Regulations shall apply to or in relation to –
(a) drivers’ cabs or control cabs for vehicles or machinery;
(b) display screen equipment on board a means of transport;
(c) display screen equipment mainly intended for public operation;
(d) portable systems not in prolonged use;
(e) calculators, cash registers or any equipment having a small data or measurement display required for direct use of the equipment; or
(f) window typewriters. However, youre right it does go on to talk about dealing with risks associated with using that equipment such as ergonomics. On another note would I be right in saying the employer does not have to pay for sight tests in such situations?
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Start by considering and assessing the overall task - it is a bin collection vehicle primarily involving driving, labour in moving/emptying the bins and likely occassional use of a navigation device. The device is incidental to the task and as such would not be considered DSE within the spirit of the regulations. Unless you have an employee who spends the round totally transfixed upon the device then any prescription would be incompatible with the other activities - I certainly don't switch between my driving and DSE prescriptions to utilise sat-nav.
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Start by considering and assessing the overall task - it is a bin collection vehicle primarily involving driving, labour in moving/emptying the bins and likely occassional use of a navigation device. The device is incidental to the task and as such would not be considered DSE within the spirit of the regulations. Unless you have an employee who spends the round totally transfixed upon the device then any prescription would be incompatible with the other activities - I certainly don't switch between my driving and DSE prescriptions to utilise sat-nav.
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Might: “The Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations 1986” as amended have something to say about the installation, position etc. of the terminal device, which may relate to some similar requirements to the DSE regulations? Position, glare perhaps, etc.?
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I am now picturing a cab fitted out with a DSE chair on castors ...
HSE now defines DSE users like this: "The Health and Safety (Display Screen Equipment) Regulations 1992 apply to workers who use DSE daily, for an hour or more at a time. We describe these workers as ‘DSE users’. The regulations don’t apply to workers who use DSE infrequently or only use it for a short time."
http://www.hse.gov.uk/msd/dse/index.htm
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I don’t think that the DSE Regs apply to drivers. The issue for users of DSE is that they spend too much time staring at computer screen and forgetting about things like how they are sitting, how they are using their keyboard and mouse etc. Driver’s first priority is (or should be!) driving. They can only be thought of as occasional DSE users and thus not coming under the Regs.
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Bang on Kate, DSE regs do not apply in this instance because the user would be using the screen infrequently under the description of the regs.
Originally Posted by: Kate 
I am now picturing a cab fitted out with a DSE chair on castors ...
HSE now defines DSE users like this: "The Health and Safety (Display Screen Equipment) Regulations 1992 apply to workers who use DSE daily, for an hour or more at a time. We describe these workers as ‘DSE users’. The regulations don’t apply to workers who use DSE infrequently or only use it for a short time."
http://www.hse.gov.uk/msd/dse/index.htm
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