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Christine Nuttall  
#1 Posted : 13 June 2018 10:24:03(UTC)
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Christine Nuttall

Hi 

Can you help with the following. The HSE guidance states an accident is reportable where the work activity itself contributes to the accident. An accident is ‘work-related’ if any of the following played a significant role:

the way the work was carried out, any machinery, plant, substances or equipment used for the work or, the condition of the site or premises where the accident happened.

We had a lady who 'mis-judged a step on a staircase and fractured her ankle. She has said it was her own clumsy fault and absolutely nothing to do with work. Would you report this?

Also our sales team regularly entertain clients or host social events for them. This is outside their normal hours but it is seen as part of their 'job' they probably wouldn't want to do it if the company didnt expect it. If they had an injury that was RIDDOR reportable, does this extend to work? The employees do also often have alcohol (albeit small amounts) at these social events. What are your thoughts on that?

Thanks in advance

Chrissie

Xavier123  
#2 Posted : 13 June 2018 10:31:35(UTC)
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Xavier123

Not enough information.  Check out the steps.  UK Slip Resistance Group have some great free guidance on the subject - do a google search.

Misjudgements may arise because someone isn't paying attention OR because the steps are misaligned, or have uneven treads, risings etc.  Lighting could be poor.  Contrast on steps could be poor and contribute to the alleged misjudgement.

If you accept the statement of the IP at face value then you've made them your accident investigator.  Of course, if it turns out they are right...then probably not reportable.

On second point, no firm rules but you've highlighted the key issue - if commonly regarded as being part of the job role i.e. expected and trouble will follow if you refuse, then it probably is work.

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Christine Nuttall on 13/06/2018(UTC)
Christine Nuttall  
#3 Posted : 13 June 2018 20:39:15(UTC)
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Christine Nuttall

Thank you for your reply, it is a good help.

Can anyone else help regarding entertaining clients? Does that constitute work?

Thanks

djupnorth  
#4 Posted : 15 June 2018 11:14:44(UTC)
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djupnorth

Christine,  On your second point, entertaining clients is likely to be regarded as a work activity as it is part of their job.  However, this of itself would not make an injury RIDDOR reportable without further involvement of e.g. the environment, equipment, substances.

I trust this is of assistance.

Regards.  DJ

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