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simonjubb  
#1 Posted : 24 August 2018 10:33:40(UTC)
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simonjubb

Taking the question literally, maybe a scenario would help in understanding and preventing the comment "the clue is in the word Principal".  Take for example, one project - say to expand a school.  The whole project run by a governing body; two distinct areas of work (new swimming pool and new science block) at opposite ends of the site with separate F10's.  Is it possible that there would be two separate Principal contractors?

boblewis  
#2 Posted : 24 August 2018 11:01:48(UTC)
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boblewis

Why on earth shouldn't there be two PCs and two lead designers as there are two sepperate projects

achrn  
#3 Posted : 24 August 2018 11:26:10(UTC)
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achrn

Originally Posted by: simonjubb Go to Quoted Post

Taking the question literally, maybe a scenario would help in understanding and preventing the comment "the clue is in the word Principal".  Take for example, one project - say to expand a school.  The whole project run by a governing body; two distinct areas of work (new swimming pool and new science block) at opposite ends of the site with separate F10's.  Is it possible that there would be two separate Principal contractors?

That's two projects.  Each will have one PC and one PD.  There's nothing in the regs that stops a client having more than one project on the go at once - even more than one project fairly near each other.  It would be pretty crippling to any large property developer, supermarket chain, etc if they couldn't have multiple projects live at once.

James Robinson  
#4 Posted : 24 August 2018 11:37:29(UTC)
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James Robinson

As per above. 2 x Projects.

Additional point to note also, the Client should be linking up these two entities when applicable (hold a weekly meeting between the 2 x PC's and the client). For example PC 1 is shuting off site power next week, or PC 2 wants to get a crane on site......where there's overlap, or one impinges on the other, the client should be getting involved.

wjp62  
#5 Posted : 24 August 2018 12:11:34(UTC)
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wjp62

The HSE's L153 Managing health and safety in construction, Guidance to Regulation 13 states:

117 There may be occasions where two or more projects are taking place on the same site at the same time, but are run independently of one another. Whatever the circumstances, it is essential that there is clarity over who is in control during the construction phase in any part of the site at any given time. Where it is not possible for one principal contractor to be in overall control, those principal contractors involved must:

(a) cooperate with one another;

(b) coordinate their work; and

(c) take account of any shared interfaces between the activities of each project (eg shared traffic routes).

http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/priced/l153.pdf

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simonjubb on 11/09/2018(UTC)
mikecarr  
#6 Posted : 24 August 2018 13:05:52(UTC)
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mikecarr

Originally Posted by: simonjubb Go to Quoted Post

Taking the question literally, maybe a scenario would help in understanding and preventing the comment "the clue is in the word Principal".  Take for example, one project - say to expand a school.  The whole project run by a governing body; two distinct areas of work (new swimming pool and new science block) at opposite ends of the site with separate F10's.  Is it possible that there would be two separate Principal contractors?

either way it is a lot easier if you have one comapny doing both projects

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