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liamw03  
#1 Posted : 19 September 2018 08:24:33(UTC)
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liamw03

Hello,

I am looking at trying to compare our AIR figures with industry standards, it seems though that different calculations are used e.g using number of employees/number of hours worked or different multipliers for the average eg 1000 or 100,000.

Am i right in thinking the standard equation is:

No of injuries (include all injuries and illness) x 100,000 / Hours worked

or is it

No of injuries x 1000 / no of employees

??????????????????????

And once I have the figure how can I compare it to the constrcution industry?

We are a smallish company (50 employed with labour only subbies also working) with a low level of accidents. I dont want to get these figures wrong or have them skewed by us being a small company.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Liam

A Kurdziel  
#2 Posted : 19 September 2018 08:52:48(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

You might be able to find what you what amongst this lot- http://www.hse.gov.uk/statistics/industry/

thanks 1 user thanked A Kurdziel for this useful post.
liamw03 on 19/09/2018(UTC)
pl53  
#3 Posted : 19 September 2018 13:22:06(UTC)
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pl53

Hello Liam

Accident Incidence Rate (AIR)  is a comparator that is based on 1000 employees and is calculated thus: 

Number accidents x 1000 / Number employees

Accident Frequency Rate (AFR) is a comparator based on 100,000 hours worked and is calculated thus:

Number accidents x 100,000 / Total hours worked. 

Some say that on average a person works roughly 100,000 hours in their lifetime and that is the basis for the 100,000 figure. I am not too sure about that though. In any event they are only comparators.

liamw03  
#4 Posted : 19 September 2018 13:27:29(UTC)
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liamw03

Thanks for that.

I have read so many conflicting opinions on this its crazy.

It seems to fall in line with the HSE and benchmark against the industry I should be getting a number below 2900ish which seems to be the industry standard for construction but when I use the 1000 multiplier I get 15.3. 

Would be nice for some clear guidance on this form the HSE and not leave it open to interpretation.

I think 15.3 looks better than 1530. I have to submit these as part of a PQQ and I will have to set out the equation as I have no idea which one they use!

Mark-W  
#5 Posted : 19 September 2018 13:30:23(UTC)
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Mark-W

Originally Posted by: liamw03 Go to Quoted Post

Thanks for that.

I have read so many conflicting opinions on this its crazy.

It seems to fall in line with the HSE and benchmark against the industry I should be getting a number below 2900ish which seems to be the industry standard for construction but when I use the 1000 multiplier I get 15.3. 

Would be nice for some clear guidance on this form the HSE and not leave it open to interpretation.

I think 15.3 looks better than 1530. I have to submit these as part of a PQQ and I will have to set out the equation as I have no idea which one they use!

Whenever I've completed a PQQ I only ever list the number of accident by year and severity. If they ask for more detail then I give it. Never been asked for the numbers you are being asked. And some of the PQQ's I've completed have been for AVON Rubber, BABCOCK and other multi nationals

liamw03  
#6 Posted : 19 September 2018 13:32:22(UTC)
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liamw03

This is for Kiers on a large public building new build.

Im the same it is usually only your normal accident stats

Mark-W  
#7 Posted : 19 September 2018 13:40:05(UTC)
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Mark-W

My client hasn't worked for KIER group in the past, NG BAILEY and Galliford Try seem to like us. Where they act as a subby on big builds they then use us as their subbies. We recently had a big aircon install in a new 7 storey build in Reading.

Made for a nice day out, leave Bristol, visit site, talk to the 4 engrs onsite and drive home.

They did make a big thing about being green and asking how many miles I'd travelled that day, did I drive or use public transport and if I drove did I car share. Felt strange giving them my travel info just to visit site

Edited by user 19 September 2018 14:19:57(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

toe  
#8 Posted : 20 September 2018 23:47:32(UTC)
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