https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-45707009

A prime example of bubble wrap H&S - "safety" issues reportedly from the weather & length of service mean under 11's will not be allowed to join the centenary remembrance day parade in Bridgend this year.

As a member of both the Scout Association and then St John Ambulance we were expected to turn out for this - yes sometimes it was a long parade & service, the weather was cold/hot/wet but the only issue we ever had was traffic control for all those participating.

If it is too hot/cold/wet/long for the young this year will they ban the veterans next year after all they sit at the opposite end of the general "at risk" spectrum for most things?

The internet shows a high of 8 C / Low 4 C cloudy with wind speed 14 mph aka a typical November day

No hits on the Met Office "weather events" for November 2017

Fact 1: you don’t get colds or flu from standing around in the cold. You get them from being sneezed on by other infected people, usually in-doors in the warm.

Fact 2: if you are ill prepared you can get hypothermia on warm day (20 ⁰C) conversely if you are prepared (scout’s motto) you can easily survive sub-zero temperatures.

Fact 3: In Finland, babies suitably wrapped up are routinely left outdoors  in prams in the cold for ‘a bit of fresh air’.

This smacks of laziness and or a lack of imagination disguised as ‘elf and safety’

Of course, when my son took part in St George’s day scouts  parade a few years ago, he was not allowed to wear his water proof, despite the rain. Amazingly he survived.  We are tougher in Yorkshire!   

 Walking my Dog at 8pm last night when I crossed paths with two Brownies, recognised them by their T shirts.  I noticed as we exchanged greetings that both were nearly as big as me. They were quite happy to be outlightly clad  in the drizzle.. They breed tough girls down here in Somerset, not sure i would want to turn them away from a parade.

I despair. .. apparently clapping is also a hazard that must be eliminated (and not just in avalanche zones) https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-45717841 interestingly the "liberation and access officer" had no response to the reporters question of how the blind would participate in such a visual display.

Seems like a prime candidate to be issuing council edicts in the future.

"Jazz hands" as a sign of approval instead of clapping is not a new thing, been around for a while. I think it is common in the USA and possibly Canada?  having experienced it i am not sure which is the least unnerving aroom full of waving arms or a room full of clapping people, both best avoided.

Originally Posted by: nic168

"Jazz hands" as a sign of approval instead of clapping is not a new thing, been around for a while. I think it is common in the USA and possibly Canada?  having experienced it i am not sure which is the least unnerving aroom full of waving arms or a room full of clapping people, both best avoided.

'Jazz hands' has been the British Sign Language sign for applause, it's been in place for decades (I learned BSL back in '95) it's just visual applause, It's also used in commune meetings to agree with a speaker without interupting. I'm pro-jazz hands, but the media spin on it claiming clapping is banned is ridiculous sensationalism.