If it's CCNSG Safety passport, I personally think that's a much better qualification to have over CSCS.

However, if the client specifies CSCS then there's no real way round it except speaking to them.

Both courses cover very similar information and you won't learn anything different on a CSCS course over Safety Passport. I have done both of them in the past and trained Safety Passport.

Is the contractor a true "Construction Skill"? The card scheme is in the process of eliminating 100% carded environments for non-construction skills e.g. cleaners, IT engineers who used to obtain the yellow visitor card

Originally Posted by: Roundtuit

Is the contractor a true "Construction Skill"? The card scheme is in the process of eliminating 100% carded environments for non-construction skills e.g. cleaners, IT engineers who used to obtain the yellow visitor card

The problem being that CSCS has decided to do away with 100% carded sites, but neglected to convince the main contractors of this, so we have the situation where CSCS won't give certain people who need to get onto construction sites a card, and main contractors still say you need a card to come on site.

Also, visitor card was used by people that were qualified and experienced and work in construction, but not at a skill or with a qualification that CSCS believe exists.  I have geologists who have degrees and decades of industry experience working exclusively in construction.  CSCS doesn't recognise their degree or their professional institution as being construction, so says they are unqualified.  I also have a number of specialists with non-EU qualifications - CSCS doesn't recognise them.  All these people used to go to site on visitor cards, now we are going to have the 'no card' argument over and over.

Given some of the perpetrators and supporters of the current situation of 100% carded sites are members of iosh, and read these forums (amongst other sources of H&S information), you have to ask what is our professional organisation doing to enlighten the many to eliminate misguided and presumed "best practice"?

Originally Posted by: dennispollard

My company is Princaple Contractor on a site and require a contractor to come on site to complete a 2 hour task, this contractor does not hold a CSCS card and only holds a Safety Passport.

Is this sufficient for a CSCS site?

Thanks in advance.

Let's not lose sight of something key here - CSCS is not required by law. It is only a tool to show competency (and can be very good, or very bad depending on what you are trying to show!).

The answer to your question seems to be, can I substitute a CSCS card for a 2 hour induction course. My opnion would be no. Simply because you are looking to demonstrate competency (or working towards competency) in line with CDM. A 2 hour course for someone who has no experience or skills or qualification is not enough to make them competent. If that person had some qualifications and experience on site, then perhaps it would be enough but you would need to be sure that this 2 hour course covered all the same information that a SSP operatives course and level1 touch screen test would encompass.

Not a straightforward answer, I would stick with CSCS or at the very least (as you should with all contractors) ensure you have a robust PQQ process and that the course covers every topic which the Green Labourers card covers too!

Long post, sorry, but I hope it helped...