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Refgizmo  
#1 Posted : 07 December 2018 13:38:34(UTC)
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Refgizmo

Good Afternoon,

We are currently carrying out a refit of a retail premises for a Canadian client, in Germany.

We work with our Canadian client in the UK, and are not expanding into Europe.

In order to keep costs down, we are using (recommended) German contractors.

It appears that German contractors do not issue risk assessments for their works, and only provide copies of their insurances.

Has anyone ever come up against this before, and how did you manage / overcome it?

Also, with regards to asbestos, it also seems that, in Germany, they would not carry out an R+D survey prior to any refurbishment work, they only carry out such a survey when a suspected material is uncovered.

I suppose my question is, would we operate under CDM 2015 whilst in Germany, or amend our procedures to satisfy German law? However, I do not see a direct equivalent to CDM, only the Building Regulations (Bauordnungsrecht).

chris.packham  
#2 Posted : 07 December 2018 15:27:04(UTC)
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chris.packham

I have PMd you.

Chris

Ian Bell2  
#3 Posted : 08 December 2018 20:00:24(UTC)
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Ian Bell2

Provided you don't break German H&S law, you can set your own design and site requirements with respect to h&s and associated documentation and working practices.

If you want to shadow CDM, thats your choice. CDM came of of EU Directive 92/57 so German h&s law should at least meet this directive, the same as the UK in that sense.

Whether you can find a German contractor to comply with your requirements is another matter.

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