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FORRESJO  
#1 Posted : 25 January 2019 08:53:38(UTC)
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FORRESJO

Morning all,

I hope that some of you would be willing to assist. I have been asked a question about whether a HiAb can be used to lift a load from below ground level. I do have an opinion on it but I'd rather hear from capable persons who can point me in the direction of their own SKE and any guidance in writing.

Looking forward to the debate...

alexmccreadie13  
#2 Posted : 27 January 2019 19:48:54(UTC)
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alexmccreadie13

Originally Posted by: FORRESJO Go to Quoted Post
Morning all, I hope that some of you would be willing to assist. I have been asked a question about whether a HiAb can be used to lift a load from below ground level. I do have an opinion on it but I'd rather hear from capable persons who can point me in the direction of their own SKE and any guidance in writing.Looking forward to the debate...
I think no one has answered is because it is a strange scenario to get into. I would suggest that if you are in a position to lift from below ground level with a fixed Hiab arm then it is not right. Arguably you can have long chains but I feel the vehicle could be in an unstable position. I can,t answer you better than that without full facts sorry .
Roundtuit  
#3 Posted : 28 January 2019 08:34:28(UTC)
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Roundtuit

You will have to clarify "below ground level" is the vehicle being driven in to a trench at the side of the work site or being used from a road to lift to an elevated work platform e.g. on a hill side.

As with all equipment there are different designs dependent upon intended purpose - most commonly associate the generic term HIAB with the fixed / extending boom loaders preferred by construction supply companies where the intention is to off-load from the trailer deck and lower to ground level at site. There are more complex craning solutions but these are less visible on UK roads.

What does the drivers training / manufacturers operating manual state?

Roundtuit  
#4 Posted : 28 January 2019 08:34:28(UTC)
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Roundtuit

You will have to clarify "below ground level" is the vehicle being driven in to a trench at the side of the work site or being used from a road to lift to an elevated work platform e.g. on a hill side.

As with all equipment there are different designs dependent upon intended purpose - most commonly associate the generic term HIAB with the fixed / extending boom loaders preferred by construction supply companies where the intention is to off-load from the trailer deck and lower to ground level at site. There are more complex craning solutions but these are less visible on UK roads.

What does the drivers training / manufacturers operating manual state?

Blackburn31728  
#5 Posted : 28 January 2019 09:00:23(UTC)
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Blackburn31728

There is no issue with lifting a load from below ground level with any item of plant so long as correct lift plan is in place and i would class this lift as an intermidiate lift depending on depth, load and item being lifted out si if a small item then basic lift if a heaveier more unstable item then a intermidiate one AP should identify this

Woolf13  
#6 Posted : 28 January 2019 13:54:08(UTC)
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Woolf13

The appointed person should be developing a lift plan comensurate with the specific requirements of the lift and incorporating the following British Standards:

  • BS 7121-1 2016 Code of Practice for Safe Use of Cranes 
  • BS 7121-4 2010 Code of Practice for Safe Use of Cranes Part 4 Lorry Loaders

Readily understandable rated capacity charts should be prominently displayed to the lorry loader operator. Rated capacity charts for special applications should be available in the lorry loader operator’s handbook. The lorry loader should not be operated outside these parameters.

The standards advise to avoid working on sloping ground due to the increased load placed on the equipment (risk of tipping) and the same would apply to loads lifted from beneath unless the lift plan drwon up by the competent appointed person following all the information above can confirm it is safe to do.

I hope that helps.

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