Welcome Guest! The IOSH forums are a free resource to both members and non-members. Login or register to use them

Postings made by forum users are personal opinions. IOSH is not responsible for the content or accuracy of any of the information contained in forum postings. Please carefully consider any advice you receive.

Notification

Icon
Error

Options
Go to last post Go to first unread
Andy Ellis  
#1 Posted : 13 May 2019 07:00:52(UTC)
Rank: New forum user
Andy Ellis

Hi,

Im after some advice we are about to undertake some work on a canal towpath using small dumpers and footpath sprayers the issue of seatbelts has been raised as the previous H/S manager said that seat belts shouldn't be worn as there is a risk of drowning if the plant falls into the canal as the operative may be dragged to the bottom of the canal. In my mind seatbelts should be worn as you can get seat belts which fasten around the middle which would be easy to remove. Also if the plant was to tip either way you would have the "mouse trap" situation.  Any advice would be greatly appreciated. 

Thanks Andy 

Blackburn31728  
#2 Posted : 13 May 2019 07:12:13(UTC)
Rank: Forum user
Blackburn31728

Depends on how close to the water you are if any risk of plant going into water then seat belts should no be worn, speed should be restricted also and highlighting of water edge

Roundtuit  
#3 Posted : 13 May 2019 07:39:04(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user
Roundtuit

Easy to remove is an opinion through judging equipment in a non-emergency situation on dry land and with plenty of time to think.

Upside down, in dark cold water, even a simple push button can be problematic due to disorientation and thermal shock.

Add to that an operator who has been rendered unconcious or a self inflating bouyancy aid pulling the belt tight against its catch.

thanks 1 user thanked Roundtuit for this useful post.
A Kurdziel on 13/05/2019(UTC)
Roundtuit  
#4 Posted : 13 May 2019 09:43:37(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user
Roundtuit

https://www.theconstructionindex.co.uk/news/view/guide-to-safe-dumper-use-is-now-published

Just Published by the Plant Safety Group

Note at the bottom of Page 6 specifically mentions not wearing seat belts when working near water

Mark-W  
#5 Posted : 13 May 2019 10:08:43(UTC)
Rank: Forum user
Mark-W

Originally Posted by: Roundtuit Go to Quoted Post

Add to that an operator who has been rendered unconcious or a self inflating bouyancy aid pulling the belt tight against its catch.

And that statement has probably caused a few raised eyebrows.

Years ago an officer in the Army was sent down and did some time for a drowning of an Army Cadett. He broke the rules and played the probibility game. In the end the boat capsized and a young female cadet drowned under the boat. 

He thought he'd had this issue covered by issuing the cadets with self inflating boouyancy aids. But he'd gien her the issued Roayal Engineers Life Jacket (RELJ). Which has the capacity to float a grown man with his kit on. So a young cadet was no match, she would be safe. But what actually happend, she went under the upturned boat, RELJ inflated and forced her under the water and she drowned. As it turned out, if she hadn't been wearing the RELJ she would of survived because of the pocket of air that is always captured when this style of boat turns turtle.

aud  
#6 Posted : 15 May 2019 11:57:25(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user
aud

The Canal and Rivers Tust have a Code of Practice for works on canals. Starting point, but does not mention seat belts.I believe they also specify plant (such as dumpers) to work at 45 degrees to the bank, as parallel can collapse the edges of canals and will tip the plant and operator sideways into the cut. 

Workers at waterside should have flotation devices, although most canals are not that deep. Even so - with the mud and other detritus they have risks. A separate assessment for near locks, weirs etc obviously.

Users browsing this topic
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.