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mike52  
#1 Posted : 11 June 2019 09:20:23(UTC)
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mike52

I am interested in any opinions on this scenario? I carry my GTN spray all the timemails. However there is an employee who also has a heart condition but leaves her spray either in her locker or in her car. She started to have chest painso so I offered her my spray to ease the symtoms. We both have the same type and dosage. The first aider told me I could not do that and her own spray was fetched which took several minutes. My question is do you think know I was right or wrong to offer her my spay initially? Mike
A Kurdziel  
#2 Posted : 11 June 2019 09:40:45(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

GTN (Glyceryl trinitrate) is an alternative name for nitroglycerine (the well-known explosive), used to avoid alarming patients.  Generally it is not a good idea to share medicines especially prescription ones as these have been prescribed for a particular person to deal with their condition taking into account various health factors. GTN is quite a powerful drug and could in the wrong dose,  cause problems.  

CptBeaky  
#3 Posted : 11 June 2019 10:10:28(UTC)
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CptBeaky

I doubt you will find any H&S professional who would back you openly. You should never give prescribed drugs to anybody other than the named patient.

However, if I saw someone having an asthma attack and I had my inhaler on me; I would give it to them without thinking twice.

SBH  
#4 Posted : 11 June 2019 10:18:39(UTC)
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SBH

 I carry such a spay but never use it, and when I looked at it the spray expired 18 months earlier.

Tell her to carry the spray - why leave it in the car - you never know when it may be needed. Whats the point of having it if its left in the car.

SBH

SBH

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A Kurdziel on 12/06/2019(UTC)
achrn  
#5 Posted : 11 June 2019 11:58:12(UTC)
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achrn

Originally Posted by: mike52 Go to Quoted Post
She started to have chest painso so I offered her my spray to ease the symtoms. We both have the same type and dosage. The first aider told me I could not do that and her own spray was fetched which took several minutes.

If you know that it is exactly the same prescription (i.e. have previously checked, and neither of you have changed prescription in the intervening period), I would say what you did was illegal (since you were distributing a prescription drug - I'm assuming you're not qualified and authorised to fill prescriptions), but was the right thing to do in the circumstances.

However the actually right thing to do is tell your colleague to carry their own drugs.

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A Kurdziel on 12/06/2019(UTC)
Roundtuit  
#6 Posted : 11 June 2019 14:01:25(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Isn't this the prescribing scenario often discussed around FAAW.

"I have a headache"... "here take these" - prescribing

versus

"I have a headache"... "I have some paracetemol in my desk if you want them" - self medication

or

"I have a headache does anybody have any aspirin?" - self diagnosis

Having been administered GTN in A&E I would concur this is not a medicine for sharing

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A Kurdziel  
#7 Posted : 12 June 2019 08:45:10(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

“However there is an employee who also has a heart condition but leaves her spray either in her locker or in her car.”  As several people have pointed out the issue is not whether you should be sharing prescription medicine with someone but why she refuses to carry it with her. Does it spoil the line of her clothes? Is she embarrassed to carry it or does she just expect other people do things for her? This is the sort of thing I’d expect people to carry with them like an inhaler, an EpiPen or insulin.

I once worked with a senior manager who refused to put their own eye drops in; instead they expected the OH adviser (who was a qualified nurse) to do it for them because”That’s what nurses do”   

mike52  
#8 Posted : 12 June 2019 09:11:33(UTC)
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mike52

thank you all for your replies. They do .are the situation clearer. as for why she does not carry her spray, it is because she hadoesn't not had an email enter in almost a year and felt she did not need it (no medicall ad ice sought on that). the spray is now arrived all the time. Thanks again mike
achrn  
#9 Posted : 12 June 2019 12:08:06(UTC)
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achrn

Originally Posted by: Roundtuit Go to Quoted Post

Isn't this the prescribing scenario often discussed around FAAW.

"I have a headache"... "here take these" - prescribing

That's not prescribing in the sense of distributing a prescription drug.  It's not illegal to give someone non-prescription drugs you have purchased.  It is illegal to distribute prescription-only drugs unless you have the appropriate authorisations.

Roundtuit  
#10 Posted : 12 June 2019 12:36:00(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Medicines Act 1968 Part III section 58.b. "no person shall administer (otherwise than to himself) any such medical product unless he is an appropriate medical practitioner or a person acting in accordance with the directions of an appropriate practitioner"

Is this your reference? I am struggling with the term "distribute" as this implies some form of transaction which comes under a definition of the offence to supply under The Missuse of Drugs Act 1971

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