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craigroberts76  
#1 Posted : 08 July 2020 20:08:37(UTC)
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craigroberts76

I need to do some work on WELS and its not my strong point.  We've done some air sampling for spraying using a product that uses TOULENE.

We sprayed for 3mins (realistic for the area covered) and took are samples for Toulene 3m away after the spray was finished and it read 100ppm, after 10mins it dropped to 20ppm, we didnt record any further after that.  The COSHH data sheets state the WEL is 100ppm and TWEL is 50ppm.

So is it a case that after 10 mins the fumes drop below 20ppm and so is considered that RPE isnt required? I'm trying to work out the safe level (and I know zero is safe !) when a room can be entered after spraying without RPE being worn.

thanks

Kate  
#2 Posted : 09 July 2020 07:10:01(UTC)
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Kate

To be fair, the question wasn't about whether the operator needs RPE when spraying, but "when a room can be entered after spraying without RPE being worn"

Kate  
#3 Posted : 09 July 2020 07:16:35(UTC)
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Kate

Was an occupational hygienist advising and assisting you with this?

HSSnail  
#4 Posted : 09 July 2020 07:26:44(UTC)
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HSSnail

Originally Posted by: Roundtuit Go to Quoted Post

What the hell is a COSHH data sheet

Its the same as "The person responsible for Health and Safety!"

Sounds like your having a bad week Roundtuit - can we not play nice?

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A Kurdziel on 09/07/2020(UTC)
craigroberts76  
#5 Posted : 09 July 2020 08:21:42(UTC)
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craigroberts76

what we're being asked for by the client is "once painting has taken place, when can people use the room"? does that make more sense? the MSDS states the WEL's but I'm struggling to find anywhere how you work out a safe / background limit.  I've spent several days reading and searching but without a clear answer.  Yes we would like the room to be zero, but that isnt likely to occur for a few days due to settling.

We state that whilst spraying is taking place, anyone within 15m must wear RPE, this is because the PPM drops off to below the short term and long term PPM at 10m, so I've added another 5 for good measure, but I know the client will reject this as being unworkable as other trades need access to the area asap after spraying so want to know the estimated "clear" time.

I've not seen the deleted comments by others, but I do find some pick issues with questions for the sake of showing stature or awkwardness, I ignore.

stevedm  
#6 Posted : 09 July 2020 13:16:50(UTC)
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stevedm

calculate the clearance time for the room... :)

https://www.hse.gov.uk/mvr/bodyshop/cleartime.htm

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Kate on 09/07/2020(UTC)
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