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Originally Posted by: Acorns  Originally Posted by: TDF Originally Posted by: Acorns Really need to seek legal advice as much if the post is conflicted.
If the death has not been registered then it’s because the coroner is investigating it- speak to the coroner, typically a certificate can be issued even if there are investigations
If the deceased was acting in an ‘official capacity’ capacity then they’re either an employee or under a contract both of which can be checked without going via HSE.
If the deceased had no dependents, then not sure how an insurance claim would stand - being brutal deaths with no dependents is often a no payout by insurers …. Even if they were there in an official
Capacity, unless it was upon death regardless of dependents, in which case the money would go to their estate, which then means probate. And, of course, if they were there in an ‘official capacity’ their estate could be a defendant against a 3rd party claim!
If HSE are investigating a complex case, is it for their prosecution or for the Coroner?
There are enough nuances that could mean you are not a person of interest to sure the information with. Perhaps not for this open forum but ask why you are a person entitled to the info you are seeking
It really does come back to legal advise Thank you. I realise I'm being sparing with details, but that's because of the ongoing investigation. I can say that he was my brother, and I am NOK. He was not an employee as such, but it is deemed, we think, by HSE that its a workplace death due to the fact that some officials (Marshals) were paid. He was not. It was a large sporting event, a British Championship, and as such was under guidelines and legislation of a ruling body, and it's their insurance he was covered by, which pays out on the death of an official. We have been advised by the Insurer that we can make the claim upon proof of his official status at the event. This is not an accident claim, although it was an accident. He had no dependents, and there is no will or estate. We did have an interim death certificate from the Coroner which allowed us to have the funeral. We do understand the complexity of the HSE investigation, it's simply that we want a tiny piece of info to proceed with a claim on insurance that he was potentially entitled to. Thanks making it clear you are not a dependent. Very few insurances pay into an estate (deceased brother’s estate) based only on their death. Whilst they say you can make a claim, it doesn’t mean you’d be entitled to a payment. Brotger may have had a partner who could also make a claim, again, doesn’t mean they get it, and in the absence of specific instructions for the money to go to you, it will go to the estate, probate, clear debts , tax etc and then you can see what’s left that you can claim. If you already know the insurers, check what the cover is. For want of repetition, get some relevant legal advise Basically, there is no estate, no debt etc, that's all been dealt with. He had no partner either. My cousin was a,lawyer, and he's looked at the insurance details which are easily available online, and said he can't see a reason why they wouldn't pay out, but of course we need that tiny piece of information from HSE to confirm his capacity at the event, which they have determined. My cousin thought the reason they (HSE) weren't willing to give us any information was because his capacity at the event needed to be determined by the Court, but I've told him that's not the case and he can't understand why we can't be given that info. He's not a practicing lawyer anymore, so I can't instruct him, but he doesn't think we need one.
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